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After the build up of not socializing from a long day of work, school, sleep or whatever it may be, you may be in the right mood to start socializing.

However, this is like going to work. Although you are not in the proper state sometimes, once you start going at it, the mood will be picked up by the act of working itself. In other words, do it regardless of your current emotions.

There are ways to ease yourself through the AA when you start the small talk excercise:

1. Warm up sets where you talk to the store clerk asking them for advice.
2. Call a friend on a cell phone and have a brief chat with him or her.
3. Keep a smile on your face. Bio-feedback.
4. Say hi to all the employees who makes eye contact.
5. As Jack pointed out in the video: Say your opener and than eject, and really do eject. This has many benefits. First, it's outcome detached. Second, when you eject at a nice set where you thought to yourself that you could've gone much further, it gives you confidence and puts you in a good mood. You don't want to always eject when you got blow-out for this very reason.
6. I recommend people who are just start out learning the game like I am begin with indirect openers, and just gain that social interaction experience because it is that important.

Remember guys, by approaching itself puts you from the "non-considerable" category of men to "potential consideration for a date" category.

Best wishes guys

I went out mall sarging for the first time yesterday and today was my 2nd day, and I thought I'd post my experiences on this challenge. For a little background information about me, I'm a pretty social and outgoing guy in general even in my AFC days, but I had a nasty problem with girls in the area of putting them on pedestals, supplicating and things like that before I picked up venusian arts. Even though I am pretty social, the first time I went out and tried to do this mission I was pretty nervous and on edge at first. I missed a lot of opportunities to open, but after 15-30 minutes of walking around I began to loosen up and approach. I completed about 5-7 approaches on my first day. I just got back from my second day, and it was TONS easier for me to open today because I realized a few important things:
1. There is pretty much NO way of getting rejected here if you open properly, and your body language is correct. Make sure that you project your opening clear enough so that the girls can hear you("EXCUSE ME, HI/HELLO..."), and project your opinion opener/situational opener loud enough so that you grab their attention and they stop. If you speak loud enough to get their attention, they WILL STOP. Every set I've opened in the past two days(I opened about 15-20 sets today) has stopped when I opened with excuse me and went straight into my opener. If you're dominant enough to project, they will not walk away.
2. When I was beginning to get inside my head and my anxiety was flaring up, I took a break and just tried to make eye contact with any girl I walked past. Make sure your facial expression is neutral; don't smile right away and don't reflect any emotion. I guarantee you at least 60% of girls you lock eye contact with will back down. This goes to show you that they are as scared of you as you are of them! If they are scared/intimidated by you, they don't know how to respond to you opening on them and they SURE have no idea how to reject your approach.
Remember guys, the most important key to this challenge is keeping your frame in the face of anxiety. There will be times where really fine girls pop up right in front of you for a split second, and you don't have time to gather yourself before the approach. You've got to push through it. Trust me, once the first 2-3 words come out of your mouth, they will stop and you're in. Just keep a confident frame and the rest will take care of itself.

@Mentalist: I have a question about this mission since I'll probably be working it for a few days longer. Have you ever tried tapping a girl on the shoulder as an opener? I somehow feel like using "Excuse me" to open up is kind of too formal to branch off of if I wanted to try and draw out a conversation from the opener; at least when you get used to the mission. Have you experimented with different ways to get the girl's attention that you want to open?

I am still pretty amature when it comes to building attraction after the opening. Jack would be the man to go to for this advice.

However, I do have some pointers and things I'm working on:

1. Self-Tease: After your indirect opener, tease yourself in a playful way.
Ex. The Jeans opener. "Yeah I have no idea I'm going right now I"m kinda lost."

2. After that, stack it forward by asking her a question about her. Ex. "So you seem like a student, you go to school here?"

3. You can try going in direct as well for a girl that's by herself. I haven't tried it much so I won't comment on it yet. But out of the ones I tried, it's nice.

I see. I have one more question, sorry all the questions lol.
1. How do you handle approaching targets that are walking in your direction? I tend to let alot of targets go because they simply walk past me before I kind of prepare myself to approach. I know I should take advantage and just go for it, but sometimes the cute ones just pop up so fast and the next second they're gone!

Make sure you don't open when she is already too close to you, but open her when she's about 7-10 feet away. This is less scary for women and they can see you are talking to them and not someone else. Stop walking once you open, and do not take a step towards them just yet. They will naturally come towards you, especially when they are walking in the opposite direction anyways. Stay rooted on your feet and try over your shoulder if they are in right angle to you. Once they start paying attention and standing still for few seconds in your opener, then turn your body to face them. However, a lot of times you don't need to do this because they will stand naturally infront of you.

good point, i always feel like the girl freezes up if i open them when they're just about to walk past me, rather than when I come up from a distance and plant myself.

hey fellows your conversation sounds interesting and i applaud u for giving it a go..approaching cause about 99 of guys don't do this.

some guys don't even know about this method of picking up girls. I didn't know about it about a month ago.

I'm very new and older than u guys, but i gave it a go casually. I've haven't been to the mall yet though.

whatz ur success been so far guys? u said u opened about 15-20 sets. did u get about 10 or so numbers yet?

i've only approached probably less than 10, but i've had quite a few numbers and one has turned into angoing MILF fuck. fucked her twice so far.

anyways, i'd luv to hear about ur successes and i wish u well. ur success motivates me. i think u guys have more guts than me too cause i don't approach much. i guess i suffer from AA (who doesn't).

so good on ya for approaching. my strength is that once i open, my talking skills are excellent...i start to talk to a stranger like i've know them for years (i studied acting in my past)...

by the way i haven't read any pick up books and i don't really intend to. I'm jus gonna approach more. all the things they teach in the books i think i'm doing naturally anyway.

talk to u guys later.