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hater, get wit the program qix, the canibus is the law!!!

i think stories can be a bit too much, generally for anytime, i would generally use stories for day 2s and after wards, not for building attraction. it seems wierd when you do it, you talking about something for a long time. i would rather have straight conversation involving questions and statements. if there is something i can say which i can relate to then i will say it in a couple of sentences, if she asks to expands, then i will, but even then i will only go on for a couple of minutes.

to tell cool stories they got to be real and interesting to all. but most important is the delivery.

I think the best time to tell a story, is whenever you feel like it

P_Cock wrote:

Girl 1 - On the way out I saw a good looking persian girl reading a sign, I thought about how I could easily use that to approach her but I walked by. When I walked by we looked at each other and she smiled... damn I shoulda approached her.

How could you tell she was persian? All the white people i know have no idea im persian
I hate that regretful feeling you have after missing a girl/set. Its just so irritating cuz yuo wanna go and fix it but by then theyre not there anymore >:(

W/e all we can do is learn. thats the whole point of going out picking up chicks.

The very first opinion opener i used went AMAZINGLY WELL (its my holy-grail of pick up lines that i came up with) and i was not anticipating talking to the set after i said my line. The conversation was fun but it was going nowhere and both parties knew that (i was with a wingman and it was a two set). Eventually the girls ended it and then i thought to myself "WTF I HAVE MORE GAME THAN THIS" so before we left i got 1 of there numbers even tho THEY ended it.

Next time you leave a set that you wuill probably never see again just tell them to put her/their digits in your phone.you have nothing to lose and already showed the balls to talk to them, so why not get a number? I usually find TELLING them to put their number in (not being too commanding of course) generally gets a better response than asking them for it. And sometimes when i do that i get asked "was all this just to get my number?" and i say "ya pretty much " and they do it even more willingly. I absolutely love it when that happens

- I need to continue changing my reaction when I see targets. My usual reaction as an AFC when I see 2 girls is to look at them as long as possible and just admire and soak in their beauty.

I hear you brother!

keep in mind you're only 15 so delivering your 'method' of 'gaming' is like telling a dog to sit, the girls are shallow at your age. not attacking you, just can't stand how idiotic most females are at that age, maybe i was just unsuccessful at that age, bah humbug.

oh and to attraction, no offense but youre starting to come off as a creep, if i was a female and saw you in a mall 5 days in a row i'd have my hand in my purse for my pepper spray hahaha joking!!!

Hahaha yea notion that happened today... got maced by some girls I tried to hit on last week. Nah just playin, ive thankfully been going to different malls but yea I gotta watch that, can't go to the same spot too often. University is really where I gotta watch this, cuz in the future ill probably be there a lot, don't wanna get known as a creeper who hits on every girl there, that would be a bad reputation.

Today wasn't a huge day as far as approach goes, I spent most of my day at the UNI library working on some stuff. I did end up behind a 3 set of girls that were 6 and below when they turned around but hey an approach is an approach right? I thought of something different this time.

Me - Hey guys, my name is Matt Morris, if I changed my name to Jack Coxwell do you think id get more girls? (Thanks Jack Coxwell for the inspiration, even though we know its not your real name )

The convo went on for a couple minutes, I didn't really run any game. They even asked at the start if that line was my way to pick up girls. I shoula said yes and busted their balls right there. It was good in the sense that im reacting by approaching more and more often instead of not approaching. I also chatted up a girl who was crossing the street at the same time as me.

Tommorow I don't plan to go out anywhere, just chillax at home and go to my meeting. Im feeling extra confident with my new look, its cleaned up and my earrings really work well with my necklace and hair spiked. When I looked in the mirror today I actually saw a PUA and not just an average guy. I probably won't be changin much else for a while, till after christmas I want some more accessories and maybe different earrings, I am buyin some clothes this weekend too and I kinda know what im lookin for.

As far as the party its at an apartment so I sure as hell won't be using any lines, ill just go up and introduce myself to anyone I wanna meet. Itll be a smaller, more intimate party (okay that sounds creepy but u know what I mean) more likely so itll be an obligation to at least introduce myself to everyone there, since there won't be that many people. I think the best idea would be to not look attached to the girl im goin there to see. If I stroll around and chat up alot of females there itll make her jealous, then once that jealousy hits a breaking point im sure her mouth will be goin where the sun don't shine.

As far as the ever - important isolation goes, ill have to see what my options are there (how many rooms and shit, might not be any free ones), then finding an excuse to go there won't be hard at all, if shes showing me shes into me im pretty sure she wants to do the same thing. Geez these girls expecting us to make the move and all right? No wonder I never got any in the past, I always waited for them to... I plan to go out to the party and just have fun, make friends with as many people there guys or girls, and stay away from gettin drunk, cuz that would not help my game at all. In a way not drinking demonstrates a slight amount of higher value, even if it is subconscious and small for most people. Girls will have respect like, "oh this guys not a stupid drunk partyboy and can actually have an intelligent conversation". Of course it only works if im still having fun and being real social, otherwise im just the lonely loser who doesn't wanna have any fun.

Anyways im glad you guys keep replyin I appreciate the feedback, don't worry there will be plenty of actual game to critique in the future, im just gettin started and takin it slow and thorough, and for me right now that still means gettin comfortable approachin and meetin fine honeys. I was watching some of the PUAJourney episodes today and it helped me get in a good frame of mind for pickup, even if it was a slow day today. I also thought about how had I not gone and approached Quizno's girls I would have never talked to her, and thus would not be getting invited to a party this weekend, which will present even more oppurtunities for pickup! You never know what a single approach will bring ya!

well if it is a small party venue, with not a lot of people there, then you will have to introduce and be social with everyone. just simple conversations, but build rapport, go deep into topics, especially with guys or girls you not into. you can bust on the any of the girls. Make sure you get numbers of people, good to network at these events. make sure you having fun, and they are having fun

IF she is jealous then she will try to spend more time with you, maybe act pouty, definitly increase eye contact and glances your way.

At least you got an opening to start convo,saying you both went to school, and you just catching up.

personally, i would not spend much time talking with her or any girl more than once or twice a week on the phone or msn, and that is really to confirm a meet up, early in seeing a girl. if you do talk to much on phone it shows too much interest

Back to agreeing with Canibus lol!

Sounds like you have this well in hand man. The party is to have fun, so have fun. As Cani wrote, meet, greet and befriend. If you can spin jealousy, so much the better, but make it secondary to just enjoying yourself. tbh, that's gonna increase the chance that you make some friends, and the chances that she will see a side of you she didn't know about.

Remember, SHE invited YOU to this party, so she has some level of interest, it's your job now to show her that she vastly underestimated how interest she has. Show her how much fun and how awesome you really are. That can spin a maybe into a yes, and at the minimum set you up nicely with the new people there.

Hey guys, figure id give a quick update of the weekend. No sarging occured, I was about to head out friday to the mall to look for a job / sarge but at the last minute my buddy called and I went to hang out with them for a few minutes as a pregame icebreaker, plus there was a chick there thats hot, my friends project. I ended up spending a lil too much time there so I never made it to the mall. I did go to a Narcotics Anonymous meeting for the first time, and got to know the people there pretty well. We went to Chili's after the meeting and there were a decent amount of girls there, 1 or 2 that id fuck. I noticed something important that I need to change. I really wasn't talking much or interacting with people like a guy thats the center of the party should. It wasn't because I was shy, nervous, or uninterested, it was because I literally could not think of things to say or talk about. This is another thing that needs to be corrected in my game, I have to be interesting and have interesting things to say or converse about. I just need to have alot more conversations, especially long ones like at dinner somewhere, and think of more and more things to talk about. Im very witty and can think of a good response to just about anything, but when it comes to keepin the conversation alive or starting a new thread, im so far behind. This is something to be expected of someone who used to be so quiet and shy, and I found myself kinda crawling back into that corner when I didn't have anything to say that night.

As far as that party goes she never called me. I did handle the situation like a PUA should. The only time I messaged her was the first night where she actually invited me to the party. After that I left the ball in her court, we had each others numbers but I didn't call her to ask why she didn't call me or any shit like that. That will help me out if she ever does decide to call and hang out because now I don't look needy. It sure as hell didn't bother me either despite that I was looking forward to it. She probably just forgot and had other guys she was devoting her time to. If she does call anytime I won't even bust her balls about not calling me. I hope she doesn't have any balls. I don't think so lol.

I did work out Friday and im about to go work out today, which is good because before I started this quest to become a PUA I had just started another one to get bigger and mainly get alot of muscle mass. This one has been goin for more than a month and so far I could be doin better. I slipped up this last week when I got into sarging and got lazy by not working out. Thankfully I didn't miss much workout time but this is a long standing habit of mine to be really into something then kinda just get lazy, so I wanna make sure it doesn't happen. This week ill be back in the gym on my regular schedule, and eating the proper diet too.

This week im gonna step my game up by doing more approaches, in different settings. Itll be my last week to possibly do approaches at the University since break starts this week and people will be going home. All other options are still on the table though, ill be doing serious job hunting so thatll put me in areas where beautiful women are sure to congregate. I am gonna list my goals for this week and today which will help me keep them in sight and know what I need to do.

Goals for the week of 10-8-08 - 10-14-08

- Do 30 approaches on girls I find attractive.
- Workout 5 times, do 30 minutes cardio each time I lift weights.
- Go to Narcotics Anonymous 3 times this week.
- Finish my step 1 work and get a sponsor (addiction treatment stuff).
- Don't drink any soda.
- Put in at least 30 job applications.
- Wake up at 8 every morning.

Are these goals too much to ask? I think not!

Great goals man!

"I literally could not think of things to say or talk about" See my earlier comments You sound a lot like me in this regard. Responses that generate a laugh are a breeze, it's the content that's a challenge. If you are able to generate several talking points (aka stories) beforehand, then when you feel a lull in the conversation, you can slip into one of these and keep the conversation alive.

So, what are your talking points? Think about em and post em. I (and others no doubt) will be happy to critique / provide feedback and suggestions on them (potential pitfalls etc).

Alrighty well gentlement we have alot to talk about....

First off since its Saturday pretty much the end of the week ill go over how I did on my goals.

Do 30 approaches - 0/30 maybe a few half assed or talked to girls but no cut and dry cold approaches. Im not too disappointed in this, most of the week I was just not in the right mindstate, and too focused on some other more pressing shit like gettin a job. I realized I have a few inner game things to take care of. AA is still there too. Don't worry though, there was definitley some girl action ill have more on that later.

Workout 5 times - I didn't count but im pretty sure ive done 4 and they were good, plus one more today and maybe tommorow so ill hit 5 within the full week.

Do 30 minutes cardio when I workout - I did very good on this one, it took some committment a few times but I stuck it out and made this a part of my routine. Very happy with that.

Go to Narcotics Anonymous 3 times this week - succeeded at that too.

Finish my step 1 work and find a sponsor - Did both of these too and I am really happy with my choice of a sponsor, he seems very serious about his role and has alot of sobriety. I was real happy with this goal too, I pulled the trigger and made it happen.

Dont drink any soda - Epic fail im still addicted to this shit lol ahh oh well.

Put in at least 30 job applications - I put in 2 but id say I did better than I could have expected, I thought id need a ton of apps to find an offer with the economy the way it is, turns out GAP already offered me an 8-12 hour week doing shipping, I agreed to take it cuz I didn't think id find anything else but probably will tell them I found another job cuz a cookie shop has a full time opening which is what I need. Before I do that though im waiting to hear back from a friend whos dad might be able to hook me up with a real good job 12$/hr full time and you can move up real fast, so im gonna see what happens there before I make any moves. If it works out that will kick unfathomable amounts of ass.

Wake up at 8 every morning - failed, earliest I got up was 8:55, trying again next week. Learned from mistakes.

I feel I did pretty good and my goals next week will probably be similar, wanna keep doin the same shit to make it a habit. Probably will add some new ones.


Now for my field report from last night. Lets just say I got a bj and some sex with an HB8 (I never rate but thats what id give her). It wasn't much of a product of good game, just me bein cool, lookin good and actually making the effort to talk to girls instead of expecting them to talk to me. I was invited to a house party and there was alot of people my age, and some good lookin chicks too. I chatted up a few of em and just tried to meet people and have a good time. There were maybe 2 instances where I was standin on my own but I changed that after realisin what I was doin. I wasn't nervous or any shit like that, I had a few drinks later on in the night. I chatted up a girl wearin a leapord dress and we talked a bit, didn't think much of it but a little later she came up to me and asked me for my number. I was like "woah, a girl askin me for a number?".

I gave it to her and we kept chattin and stuff, we went outside to smoke and after a bit I actually went back inside, that was probably the only calculated move on my part, and it did probably help increase her interest. The game changer was when we were sittin in a room with some peeps and I complained that there was nowhere for me to sit. She got up and let me sit down, followed by her sittin on my lap. After that it was massive kino, although it took me a few mins to get comfortable and actually start touchin her but by then she had displayed so much interest I had no fears. We made out and she kissed my neck alot on the chair, but there werent any good rooms to go be alone in or any shit like that. Once everyone went to bed we were layin out in the living room and I re-escalated that shit like a pro in the game. Nah I just felt like sayin that but fareel we made out a bit and then she started givin me head out in the living room where people were sleepin... lol no embarrassment here. Anyways we moved it to the hallway about 10 feet away, yea no beds so that was where we were sleepin. Long story short I got lizzaid. It was good, I lasted a long ass time, probably cuz I was buzzed and I was used to jacking off, ive been doin that shit 1 or 2 times daily since I was 11 so now I have to get used to a new feeling. My goal is to not do that shit anymore so next time I fuck I can actually cum and feel the shit more. It was kinda shitty cause my dick would go soft after a few minutes of fucking, I can think of a few factors that attributed to this (like my fucked up masturbation habits, which im stopping now) but damn I was gettin pissed off. She said I was good for a first timer, and it definitley seems like itll be more than a one night stand, i told her it was my first time (pretty much was) so she can help me get better. I plan to chill with her tonight after my meeting and shit. I already told her I can't date anyone for a while due to my addiction treatment program. Damn it waas nice always havin her bitin on my neck and ears.

Overall the party was great, for once no bad shit happened and I had a good time. I got alot of attention from girls, IOIs, I looked damn good with my new hairstyle and dress style and earrings and shit, I think my looks was most of what got me that shit, id like in the future for it to be my game as well.

Anyways I am feelin real confident after that shit.

lol Congratulations sounds like you had a pretty awsome week, keep up the good work

he got lizzaiddddd!!!!!! celebrateeeeeee

Hell yea it increased my confidence alot gettin it and I plan to get laid many more times lol. Just thought id come make a post real quick so u dont think im dead or anything. I havent been approachin but im not givin up on that, I plan to get back out on the field and continue my work right now im just workin on gettin my life sorted out and gettin a job. Ill definitley be buyin some nice outfits with x-mas gift cards and shit. Once my life is a bit more stable and routine ill put in time doing approaches. That night last weekend really helped my confidence and I plan to party some more over the break. I have been taking things real fast and makin alot of changes so im kinda waiting for the dust to settle, but I won't stop till I got real game. Thats my main goal here not just to attract girls but to have game while doing so.