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I wasn't following the challenges listed, but I figured this would be a good place to log the results from my nights out sarging. Tonight I went to the mall with the initial goal of saying hey to at least 10 girls that I found attractive. I got psyched up to do it, and went in with good confidence. My avatar could use a few changes but im fine with it for now. I got in a good mindset all day watching pickup videos and shit like that, and was eager to at least get out and do something for the first time. Overall it turned out good, I left the mall on a good note and have already learned some stuff. I also found out just how steep of a hill I have to climb to become good with girls, im literally starting from square 0 here. Finding that out has motivated me even more to discover the results that becoming an expert at this will bring. In the end I said hey to 5 sets of girls passing me, and cold approached a 2 set. Heres how it went down.

Walked into the mall. These next 5 sets were all walking past me and I just said hey. My initial goal was to do this to 10 girls tonight.

Set 1 - Said Hey to 2 girls walking by, one of them smiled big and said hey back.. nothin special here.

Set 2 and 3 was about the same thing but not as much of a response, just a hey back. After these 2 hellos I realized my first problem, besides the fact that just saying hi to girls will get me nowhere. I figured out that when I say whats up the volume of my voice is way to low, I had to make hand motions (gayest wave ever) to get their attention, so I kept a mental note that I need to work on that.

Set 4 was some girls that looked probably high school age, but what the hell, I said hey to them anyways, didn't even get a response.

Set 5 was probably the same as the other ones, walked by and said hey, got a response but no stopping.

I probably froze up when passing at least 2 sets for every set here that I did say hey to. I was ignoring them if they looked to be obvious high schoolers, especially young ones, but I wasn't goin for numbers or sex so I guess it didn't matter that much the age, im 19 and look about the age. I usually could tell if they were too young off the bat, but still there were alot I skipped that I could have done. Like I said, it was alot harder to pull the trigger than I thought it would be, I froze up or just did not react fast enough alot of the time.

At this point I realized that just saying hey to the girls was not gonna get me any progress, it makes you feel a little awkward which is probably why I should try to get comfortable doing it but I decided if I want to get into this game I need to start with cold approaches. This thought went through my mind alot as I walked around for a while not getting anything done. I wasn't psyching myself out but I wasn't in the completley I don't give a fuck mindset that would be best for this.

It was about 8:55 and I was making the last round around the mall, which was good because I didn't give up one bit. I committed to stay there until I was satisfied, even if my feet hurt like hell and I was getting blisters from so much walking. Then a defining moment in my entire PUA career happened. I walked by 2 girls sitting at a bench with their backs to me, and they didn't see me walking by. Thats right I thought about saying something then made up some excuses and just kept walking. I was about 15 feet away when I thought about turning around and doing it, but kept moving forward. Then I stopped thinking and just said "Fuck it" and turned around, and walked over to them. That right there was the huge turnaround, I finally grew some balls and saved a crappy night of attempts. What happened probably made those girls embarrassed for me, but it put me on top of the world. All I did was use the line I had canned in my head.

"Hey guys, my name is Matt and im conducting a social experiment to help me overcome my fear of talking to girls, thanks for participating". And when I said it I didn't sound like a guy trying to pick them up, I literally sounded like a guy whos afraid of women trying to overcome his fear. Their reaction inside was probably "aww how cute". Then I asked them how their night was going and then walked off. They were smiling and laughing the whole time, they knew it was probably hard for me to do this, and im sure it was really funny to them. You could easily heard the nervousness in my voice, despite the fact that I couldn't feel any physical feelings of it, im not experienced enough to talk smoothly and confidently yet, so anyways my voice and stuttering a bit fit perfectly with my line, even if it is a pathetic line Im not aiming for a pickup here, just to get over my huge approach anxiety, gotta start with the basics right? Ill probably ditch that line once im past this stage, but as of right now what im saying is 100% honest. As I was walking away a huge sense of confidence washed over me, despite the fact that i knew that was as bad as a cold approach could get, it was like a huge weight was lifted off my shoulders, and I was ready to continue on to become better and better. It was like "I accomplished my goal" and I felt amazing. Too bad there weren't any more sets on the way out.


So anyways it was a good night for me and I will be doing this again next Saturday, probably the same place. The main things I have learned tonight.

- Saying hey to girls so far hasn't helped the approach anxiety, I have to actually approach to do that.

- Actually approaching isn't bad, nothing bad can happen.

- I just have to pull the damn trigger, nothing else works. When I just pull the trigger and go in my approach is sloppy, and thats how it should be considering ive never done it before, I need practice before I can get good results.

- Talk loud so they can actually hear me, it exudes confidence and will get their attention.

So where am I at in my game right now? Im at the spot where you are aware of all the techniques available and the mannerisms of a PUA. But thats the last thing I was thinking when I approached, it was more like "Holy shit im actually talking to these 2 girls", so I just need to keep going up to girls and just talking to them, ive got a ways to go before I even get a gameplan going besides just conversing, once my Approach Anxiety is dealt with then ill move on to the basics. Im taking this slow and steady, its all about progress not perfection eh? Overall im happy with tonight, and will be doing the same shit next weekend but ill be shooting a bit higher this time. 5 cold approaches is my goal for next week. I also want to use more openers than just that one.

Thanks for reading ~

Keep it up!
The first time i went out sarging with my wingman, we were trying to use openers on girls. I was waaayyy too nervous so eventually i settled with just saying hi for the day. I said it to everyone. But there was this one super hot girl that was absolutely fucking gorgeous that i said hi to. Guess what she did?

She stopped dead in her tracks, had this huuge smile on her face, and said hi back. then she asked me whats up. now i was too chode back then to do anything about it. I wasnt even expecting her to stop walking. I jsut kept on walking by and said "nothin muich"

She looked 17 but really who knows. When im trying to determine their age, i can NEVER trust their appearance. I approached tthis girl, thought she was 13 (im 15), wanted to test out my new opener, works well, we text each other later, turns out shes almost 18 and out of high school. Then there were these other girls i used my first ever opinion opener on, they looked too old, maybe 18, or even 20, turns out they were my age. There's really no way of telling. Maybe its different for adults, thats how it is for me

Voice plays a huge role in everything you do. huger than you think. If you're past youre AA and able to have a conversation, if you have a super strong, firm, well toned, and expression-filled voice, you're golden. The alpha-est guys i know have strong voices.

attraction: good job man, youre making good progress, and your field report is so detailed its actually cool to read, keep them up. try different areas every week, don't try the mall every saturday because most likely the same girls will be there (especially the highschool ones) and will think youre a creep after a while, but then again it depends how big your mall is, unless you live in minnesota where you can go to the mall of america, and can always mess with tourists that you'll never see again.

i live in a small area so the mall here is pretty much the center where everyone hangs, including a starbucks, so as for pickup there is no path for me, unless its the college, which leads to day game. starbucks in this case, you can walk up to a set and ask them for an opinion on what theyre drinking, and just say you were wondering what types of drinks they'd prefer, and then flirt by saying, well since you chose that one i'm going for the other one, with a smile kind of thing.... if youre at a mall you can simply ask where a good place to shop is or if youre good enough and you wanna spend a few bucks you can toss in the "i hardly ever step foot into this mall and i'm not the type for selecting styles but i'm going to a kick back in like an hour, you definitely look like the type who has style, help me choose a shirt!" and believe it or not, it actually works, lol.

pcock: now a days you cannot determine how old a girl is until you see her birth certificate, theyre all so good at covering including their identification/license...

Great read, keep it up. make sure you are enjoying yourself. set yourself a reward, for doing 10 approaches, like an hour of tv, or a favourite meal or something. gives motivation.

to improve your voice: record it. and practice a few words, read passages from books out loud. get a friend to comment on you voice. have good posture when talking it helps. speak from your stomach while breathing out. hum your favourite music songs out loud. sing in the shower, karoke. you want a low deep voice which is slow. you want to slow down your talk. insert pauses.


I could never tell the age of girl who is under 30, since i was 18. now i can tell if some one is over 18, but i do make mistakes, loads of girls wear make up and dress up in ways which make them look much older, plus certain girls do mature physically faster than others. but you will tell when a girl is a certain age, mature mentally and emotional, by the interaction and the words and phrases they use.

Thanks for the responses guys, I was looking forward to gettin your feedback!

I did forget to mention one other approach before, but it wasn't as ballsy for me as the last one because there was some dudes at a retail kiosk dancing for some product or something so I walked over and used a situational opener, I asked the girls what was happening here. They said I dunno, then I said im bored, and walked off. They werent as good lookin either but one was bangable. I forgot about that till just now so I guess thats 2 cold approaches. You guys are right about the mall, I could probably go to this one again next weekend because most people wouldn't be shopping 2 weeks in a row there, however, there are alot of other malls in the area so I would be better off going to one of those, even switching between two malls to get the most out of a night. The mall I went to last night is great for it because it is just one giant circle, so you can run into alot of people. I did enjoy myself, I had the goal of leaving that mall with confidence and excitement, and thanks to the last approach that actually happened. Another good place for me to do this would be my college campus, especially since I won't be taking classes there for a while so no worries about my social reputation. I wouldn't have to worry about age there and there are always lots of hot chicks. As far as nightclubs go I plan to wait till ive got good game to go there, it would be an intimidating experience at first cuz ive never been to one even. Plus from what I see day game is a bit tougher, chicks at clubs are just askin to be picked up. If I succeed at mastering day game then ill be alot better off, then I can go to the club and yell at chicks all night.

One other thing ive decided to change is my hair. Im getting it trimmed a bit this week and im gonna spike it up, since my hair is pretty thick and good for that. I have developed this bad habit for the last 2 years of always wearing the same hat, and the hat just isn't gonna be good for my pickup avatar. its the same one in my intro pic. I might wear it some once im actually hanging out with alot of girls to switch it up but meh. I do have some goals for this week prior to next Saturday, besides taking any oppurtunities to open a set if im out doing something. Im gonna eat a good diet so I can gain muscle over the next year, and not drink soda because its very bad for me and an addiction im trying to get over. I like the reward idea, I did have one in mind for last night, I like smokin black and milds every so often, but I was thinkin about it and decided not to cause the only reason I do it is for a little short term buzz, and I was just thinking "fuck this its bad for me and tastes like ass afterwards". Anyways im glad to get responses and look forward to more advice once ive got more to report. I just have to take it to the next level Saturday and make multiple approaches, even if they are pathetic, I don't care how they go yet just that ive made them.

i like wearing a hat, and switch off to spiking on certain occasions. the only reason the hat pays off is because of the peacocking; girls tend to take the hat and put it on them, and you can always get back at them if youre with another girl.

Alrighty guys new stuff to write today. Today is Tuesday, December 1st 2008 and ive changed the title to Approach Journal because that is what this will be from now on. The day isn't over yet so ill be adding more tonight, but I did talk to a couple girls so far today, in my day to day business.

Let me start by saying I have problems being nervous and fearful about coming clean and telling people I fucked up, such as "Mom, Dad I failed school", that is the one situation im more nervous than I am approaching. Today was one of those days, I decided today would be the day I tell my boss that im done with school for now and won't be able to work there. Its a good job working on a website, but it requires me to be a student. It turned out that it wasn't bad at all, I left on a good note and just told it like it is to him. He was understanding. When I walked in I was nervous as hell but when I left a huge weight was lifted off my schoulders. That was me leaving behind the last part of my addict life and truly being free to start fresh.

Girl 1 - On the way out I saw a good looking persian girl reading a sign, I thought about how I could easily use that to approach her but I walked by. When I walked by we looked at each other and she smiled... damn I shoulda approached her.

Girls 2 and 3 - I was cashin a paycheck and saw a girl working at a booth next to me while I stood in line, when she looked up I knew it was a girl I hung out with a few times so I chatteded her up and made small talk. I knew her boyfriend anyway. No game delivered, just small talk. I overheard her friend listening to an interview with the guy from Twilight "some teenager books" so I asked her if thats what it was, I wanted to see if I was right anyway. I was right and we talked for a minute what I thought about the book, just small talk again, me teasing her about the books being a fad, not bad for just chatting.

Girl 4 - 5, an actual approach sorta. - I was in quiznos gettin a sandwich and I saw a girl I went to high school with. I considered it an approach because normally I would just walk by a person I went to school with and hope they said hi to me. This time I just walked up to her.

Me - Hey I went to school with you
Her - Yea your name is Matt right?
Us - Blah blah just small talk about what were both doin as far as school goes, no game run.

It was cool, and not awkward, I wasn't nervous either, the only time I get nervous talking to girls is a straight up cold approach. Im glad I did this too because I noticed a huge mistake I made, I did not even say hi to her friend or introduce myself, which might not have happened as blatantly in a cold approach 2 set because I dont know either of them, but this time I sorta knew 1 of them (havent talked for probably 4 years) so I just focused on her. Big no no Mateo. Anyways im about to hit the mall up (different one) to find something nice, maybe a necklace or some kinda accesory to start my new look. Hopefully I will approach some girls and report back later. Peace

Nice stuff. Sorry I was unable to reply to your earlier posts, but you got some good responses man.

OK here's my take on your situation - based on your latest comments. In a nutshell, it sounds like you're too much in your own head. You mentioned it was pretty easy / comfortable to talk with the girl you knew from school. 2 thoughts here. 1 is because you already knew you had something in common with her (a common past) and that made it less intimidating to talk with her - you already knew you had something to say. or 2 you weren't approaching her to pickup. You were approaching to say 'Hi'.

Personally, I've always found that by removing the pressure to 'pickup' from my approaches, they went 1000 times easier / more successful. When you approach a girl KNOWING that you want to pick her up, the pressure can feel enormous. but if you keep it casual, and approach with the goal of simply saying 'hi' and trying to 'make a friend' - but using material that is designed to make her more than a friend, then you'll find it a lot easier to actually pick up the girl - you remove pressure and are more likely to be yourself and be attractive.

I agree COMPLETELY that approaching is easy. Saying Hi to a girl, or using an opener is really simple. As long as you are self aware of what your body is saying, then opening is simple. You're right that actually carrying the interaction further is what this is all about.

Based on that, I'd give you this exercise: What's next for you after 'hello'? What do you talk to the girl about after something clever has been said? Don't know? Don't have 3-4 ideas prepared? Well then, prepare them. Try to come up with several 3-5 minute stories you can tell that are just interesting stories. Don't worry about how they flow together, you can work that out later. But they should say good things about you - maybe talk about an interesting hobby, or experience you've had, something that someone would hear and think "that's cool" If you're familiar with Mystery Method, you should embed 1 or 2 DHV's into each story, but the stories themselves should be interesting enough that the DHV's are just part of the story (maybe mention that you did whatever with an ex, or display that you were followed by others (you lead the activity) etc.)

KEY POINT: If you're a smart guy (which who among us isn't right?) avoid the tendency to use large words. keep it simple, nothing's worse than telling an attract story and having a girl say "What does 'obtuse' mean?". Now that you've done all that, simplify it all to a single sentence that tells your story. Something like "I went to aruba with my ex girlfriend and had to share my oxygen tank with her while scuba diving a wreck." or whatever (now THAT would be a good story lol!)

Once you have the stories, post them here if you don't mind? The simplified versions are fine, but pointing out the dhv's as you see them would be good to get a sense of how much you understand and I'm sure would generate a HUGE response from the rest of us here.

Please don't misunderstand, DON'T make up a story that isn't true. if you didn't scuba dive in aruba then don't talk about it. It's ok to add in an embellishment like you had to share your tank with a girl - if you really did scuba dive a wreck, but lying about the whole story is just wrong in my opinion, and if a girl senses bullshit, it's game over.

Once you have several cool stories committed to memory, you'll feel even more at ease approaching a girl, because you'll know you have a stable of interesting things to talk about if "hey, the beer here is kinda flat" is leading you down a path of being blown out.

Damn quicksilver, thats some good advice, I would like to make that one of the first actual pieces of my game, the hard part for me will be thinking up stories but if I sit and think back for a while im sure I can come up with some. The key to these stories will obviously be the DHV spikes, which is why we tell them in the first place. Itll take some time to get some good ones but I will definitley be posting them here to share with you guys and get feedback. If I keep progressing good like I have so far in this last week ill be up to the point of actually developing my pickup game as opposed to just getting comfortable approaching girls I don't know. This story technique is a pretty easy one actually too so its a good basic technique to start with, makes me seem alot more interesting.

As promised, heres what happened when I went to the mall. Lets just say I did very good today considering this Saturday was my next intended sarge date. Im too eager to wait that long I just had to go out today and do some more. I made a total of 3 approaches as far as I can remember, they all centered around an accessory I bought that I used as an opinion opener, which is good because im starting to experiment with different openers, but I do recognize that it is a bit less pressure on me with opinion openers, because I feel like my intentions are innocent and im just asking for an opinion, even if it can be obvious that im trying to pick them up (not yet for me though, cuz i didn't run any game!). This stems from the fact that im still not comfortable or confident enough to not feel anxiety over going up to a girl to hit on her, which is simply a pattern of thinking that I am working to overcome, and it will take more time and approaches.

Im very happy about my approaches today because I went out and took them, they weren't handed to me on a platter.

Girl 1 - I was at Spencer's gifts looking at the necklaces, which was my intention at the mall that day to find a necklace to wear as an accessory and to symbolize my new life. There was a girl that looked pretty cute standing nearby facing away so I said hey, and asked her which necklaces she liked. She liked the one I told her I liked which was cool. We just made small talk like I usually do, I asked her if she went to school around here and did make a conscious effort to keep a good amount of focus on her. I was very calm talking to her and also noticed I had good body language. I was kinda facing mostly toward the necklace rack and had my shoulder facing her, slightly turned, talking over the shoulder. This was just because I really way paying attention to the necklaces so my body was naturally turned this way. It felt good standing that way though, ill try to do that every time I approach a girl. Eventually we rolled off and ended the conversation, it wasn't going anywhere. Good job on my part pulling the trigger though.

Girl 2 - Same place, asked her about whether she liked 1 necklace or the other better, she was with a couple girls and another guy but they were separated, I got her answer, and then rolled off.

Girl 3 - This one was a real cute girl in Hot Topic, I saw her browsing earrings by herself. I made a big mistake by breaking the 3 second rule, I walked by her over to the other side of the store, then walked back and approached her. It was another time where I thought about approaching, didn't do it, but then changed my mind. I asked her what she thought about the necklace I bought, she didn't really like it so I was just like "well sometimes the truth hurts but you gotta hear it". I asked her if she could recommend any bracelets here to go with it. She didn't have any suggestions and that was the end of the convo. Looking back a few minutes later I could have easily negged her about the fact that shes a girl and she doesn't have any advice about fashion, that would have probably kept the convo going well and maybe led on to bigger and better things. Thank god there are millions of these bitches around to use what we learn from our mistakes on

Overall I feel I made alot of progress today in that I approached more chicks in 1 day than I ever have, last Saturday it was 1 set, today it was 4 sets. Im relieved as well because a few years ago when I did this I didn't even get this far I don't think. I can tell that there has really been a change inside of me since the last time I "tried" this. I do plan to go out and do approaches tommorow as well as look for more stuff, and I can say im really excited and eager to approach more girls . Im getting more comfortable with talking to girls and approaching them, but I still got a long ways to go.

The main things ive learned today from approaching.

- I need to continue changing my reaction when I see targets. My usual reaction as an AFC when I see 2 girls is to look at them as long as possible and just admire and soak in their beauty. That reaction needs to change to approaching them. I noticed that today I saw 2 beautiful girls and I didn't even think to approach them, I was doing what I usually do and admire them from afar. Only after they were too far gone did I think "oh wait I could have approached them". It needs to be my immediate reaction when I approach girls.

- Dont let something a girl says break your frame of mind, if you really are confident in yourself than what someone else says shouldn't affect this. Thanks for reading and giving me feedback guys, I plan to go out tommorow and do the same thing, my goal is at least 5 approaches and to use multiple different openers. Ill be reporting back tommorow night after my outpatient rehab meeting.

One last edit... that girl I talked to at Quiznos added me on facebook. Looks like shes a little interested, we exchanged a few messages and she gave me her number, I didn't ask for it either but u bet ur ass I wanted it. I plan to hang out with her sometime later this week, probably this friday but I haven't actually made any plans with her. Itll be real fun and interesting to actually hang out with a girl instead of just approaching, and she was lookin really good today. Who knows, maybe ill get some booty .

good job man, good to know youre progressing. just don't let this pua life take control over you, don't become too greedy otherwise it'll take over, remember, it's a skill thats used when something comes along, not meant to go use to attract, but then again practice makes perfect ;]

as for the quiznos girl, i was going to mention when i read your post earlier that she seemed into you but the post would of been short; she remembered your name, so that was a big ioi

agree with notion, dont do pua all tha time, do otherthings. Think of some stories as well, but keep them real.

You are having conversations with girls, so you go to be able to talk, change topics but keep topics linked, you got to spot her give you clues about topics you can discuss. you can easily change topics very quickly and come back to it later on.

Talking about different things build rapport, especially when first meeting her. while talking about different things at that time, you can use some cocky funny stuff, to get her attracted.

The problem with stories is that while they are good for night/club game, they can be wierd during the day, especially if they just come out of the blue. if they do come out of the blue, then she will question the motivation behind telling it. i.e. you are trying to show off.

you got make stories interesting, but you got to hook them in, use a hook. There is a lot of info on story telling. personally i use story telling when i go on day 2 on instant dates.

While talking, use statements instead of questions. e.g. "You look like you are a south london girl". You will get responses which you can build on. using too many questions will seem interrogating and off puting.

Girl 1 - On the way out I saw a good looking persian girl reading a sign, I thought about how I could easily use that to approach her but I walked by. When I walked by we looked at each other and she smiled... damn I shoulda approached her.

How could you tell she was persian? All the white people i know have no idea im persian
I hate that regretful feeling you have after missing a girl/set. Its just so irritating cuz yuo wanna go and fix it but by then theyre not there anymore >:(

W/e all we can do is learn. thats the whole point of going out picking up chicks.

The very first opinion opener i used went AMAZINGLY WELL (its my holy-grail of pick up lines that i came up with) and i was not anticipating talking to the set after i said my line. The conversation was fun but it was going nowhere and both parties knew that (i was with a wingman and it was a two set). Eventually the girls ended it and then i thought to myself "WTF I HAVE MORE GAME THAN THIS" so before we left i got 1 of there numbers even tho THEY ended it.

Next time you leave a set that you wuill probably never see again just tell them to put her/their digits in your phone.you have nothing to lose and already showed the balls to talk to them, so why not get a number? I usually find TELLING them to put their number in (not being too commanding of course) generally gets a better response than asking them for it. And sometimes when i do that i get asked "was all this just to get my number?" and i say "ya pretty much " and they do it even more willingly. I absolutely love it when that happens

- I need to continue changing my reaction when I see targets. My usual reaction as an AFC when I see 2 girls is to look at them as long as possible and just admire and soak in their beauty.

I hear you brother!

Howdy guy, another day another... I dunno lol right?

First ill update on the chick from Quiznos, we messaged for a bit last night back and forth on facebook and she said her friend is gonna be having a party this weekend so ill be meeting her at that perfect environment to mack on her and other girls at the party, not to mention just have a good time and be responsible, I might drink a beer or 2 or I might just forgo the alcohol entirely. It probably would increase my confidence knowing that im in my right state of mind and the rare person at the party whos not impaired. I don't wanna rely on the advantage alcohol gives for dealing with anxiety, plus I shouldn't drink anyway cuz im in an addiction program anyways and alcohol counts for me too even though my main shit was MJ. Im excited to chill there and my goal will be to build rapport at first, then escalate kino and isolate... then get some make-out action at the very least.

As far as approaches today went well, I did them at the University I go to (taking a break now) and have decided it is the best place to do it so far, abundance of hot chicks, and I know they are my age . I did use a bit of a crutch for the opener but its just part of taking small steps to get over anxiety. My crutch was the textbook I was trying to sell back to the bookstore (reason I was up there). I decided id go up to girls and ask if they thought I could successfully sell the book due to the water damage and bent cover. If ur wondering I did sell it successfully. In total I approached 3 sets like this, all good looking, and 1 was by herself. I won't go into detail with the sets because nothing special really happened, just talked about the books and how they sold theirs and shit, then rolled off. Didn't get many strong IoIs besides the usual smiling, but I do notice that I need to pay more attention to other IOIs so I can know when its a go!

I also went back to 2 malls to look at more shit and cuz I didn't have much better to do this week since im out of a job right now. At the first mall it was freakin empty but the closest I got to an approach was when I put on a pair of sunglasses and asked a girl that just walked into the store if they looked good on me. I did also remember passing up another set that I didn't open.

At the next mall I don't remember talking to any girls, much less seeing much. The main reason I went there is because I decided to get my ears pierced again, cuz it made me look better and it goes with the new look im putting together. I also got a haircut and spiked my hair up. I think it looks good and feels better, plus it probably catches the eye a bit more effectivley than just wearing a hat or my hair down. I wore the same hat for like 2 freakin years now so its good to change it up. Ill take a pic in a bit to show yall the changes to far to my look and compare to before. Anyway thats all for today, might be a report tommorow might not, depends on how I feel but I don't have that much to do tommorow besides work-out, and go to some AA / NA meeting at the night so I might head back up to campus and approach some chickas. Ill let yall know what happens.

GReat on the party

Word of warning. If i meet a girl the next time, i generally set it up. so that i can be alone wiht her. i am in charge of what is happening. Going to her party, her friends are going to be there, and it will be very hard to isolate and kino, you will have to deal with the friends. thus you will have to game her again.

Personally i would go to the party and just have fun, interact with loads of people. Once you found this girl, go talk to her, after talking to 5 sets of people. if she shows some jealously , she probably into you.

parties are great, cause every one would now someone there, and peoples gaurds are more down. i wouldnt use the same opener here, cause people will catch on. but u can use "who do you know here?" cause it is a house party.

Dont use alcohol, forget it. you dont need it for fun.

Remember to smile when approaching and talking to people and hold eye contact, and talk to everyone in the set

Agree with canibus (as usual!) congrats on 2 things:

1) dealing with your addiction. That's a tough fight, and realizing that you should steer clear of Alcohol is smart man.

2) Congrats on selling that ratty book lol!

I agree with Cani about the party, and not letting the girl choose the venue, but I usually apply that logic to true day 2's. I feel it's better to be in control, but in the setting of a party, I'd look at this as more of an event than a day 2 anyway, so go in, have fun, see what you can build with Ms. Quiznos and by all means, meet and mack (keepin' it old school!) on some of her friends.

one other thought regarding Canibus's earlier comment regarding stories being more appropriate for night game, I disagree *gasp*. It depends on how the story is crafted. A cool story is cool regardless of when it's told