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Hey guys its again me. Now i have question how to build attraction because i have problems with it.
What i do is im using magic tricks and palm reading and i have 1 story about how i was climbing but as so far i have really bad results in attraction i have no idea how to start attraction usually im using palm reading after transition on my target. But then im blank and i can show only magic tricks or tell one story but im looking like guy who needs attention ;/.

Ps. when you should have kino with your target. and should i do routines on target right away or just do it on obstacles and neg my target ?

Sounds to me like you need to work on your material. If you have a hard time in set coming up with things to say, then pre-script some stories that you can fall back on and learn them before you go in set.

If you're jumping into magic and palmistry, I think the sets you approach may be confused. They may wonder if you're just a street magician trying to entertain them. as such, you become a performer in their mind - you're putting on a show for them, therefore they don't view their interactions with you as anything more than a show - they may think it's all 'part of the act' which is bad.

Little tricks and palmistry are fine additions to your game to keep things interesting, but if you're relying on them, then it's time to begin crafting your stories. If you have no problem with doing magic, then consider some of the routines that let you cold read a girl (google cold reading and you'll find a shit ton!) like strawberry fields or the cube or something as filler.

Regarding storytelling, Canibus posted some great stuff for ideas and details:

http://mypuajourney.freeforums.org/conv ... -t395.html

that should help get you started.

Regarding Kino. Kino begins from the moment you enter a set. When you shake a hand or high five a girl - or read her palm - that's kino - you're touching her. Just make sure to build off your successful kino, if she'll high five you, then try holding her hand, or placing your hand on her shoulder - if she looks or reacts uncomfortable, then remove it before she asks you to. but if she's ok with it, go in for a hug as a compliance reward: "Oh, you like german food too? Wow! ok, come here, you have to give me a hug for that *hug and release* <continuing the conversation> that's so awesome, most girls HATE german food..." stack forward to more chit chat. Your kino should build off of your successes just like compliance becomes bigger and bigger (things like "are you adventurous" (yes/no answer) becomes things like "tell me what makes you special" (Longer more creative answer) when you get a good response from easier compliance tests.)

Hope that helps some!

wow thanks canibus i will try it great help

weird freeforums error put this here... reposted in the proper location.... It's a puajourney.com conspiracy!

no worries

check this out to:

http://mypuajourney.freeforums.org/writing-and-telling-stories-t358.html

I am not into telling stories, although we all do it. i dont do it for the sake of attraction, i believe it is too needy and in the end being bragging. I would rather her find out about certain things naturally as the come up.

Use cocky funny, when talkin. just start talking normally like you are making friends, dont talk about deep stuff, or about you mainly. Find out about her. then every now and then drop some CandF.

Have good Body language (this invloves voice) before you even start approaching and during the approach.

I'm surprised the most obvious hasn't been stated yet - BE an attractive person physically. Do everything in your power to find the right style that suits you best, the right grooming, etc. And hit the damn gym, especially if you're serious about this stuff. Plus working out can naturally improve your posture, I know when I'm suffering in pain from a hard workout it forces me to stand up perfectly straight due to the pain.

A lot of meeting women has to do with your passive attractive level, things like your tonality, speed of speech, body language, and of course your appearance. With a really good appearance you don't have to be a master at everything, it shoots your passive value through the roof. Keep that in mind.

you point out obvious points, jack.

appearance is important, grooming, style - fashion, hair, are necessary too.

I have always gone about being an attractive guy first, instead of relying on others stories and routines. live an attractive life.

canibus1990 wrote:you point out obvious points, jack.

appearance is important, grooming, style - fashion, hair, are necessary too.

I have always gone about being an attractive guy first, instead of relying on others stories and routines. live an attractive life.

It's usually the obvious and simple which is overlooked the most. And in a lot of cases, the most important as well.

*nods* I was equating his questions to storytelling, but you're right Jack. Be attractive in entirety, working out is certainly a big step, and worth the time (and commitment!) to see results. For some immediate starters, consider:

- Grooming: Make sure that HOW you groom yourself is congruent with who you are and who you want to present to the world. If you're avatar (look) is cleancut, then shave, bathe, primp, etc. If you prefer a rougher look, you should still clean yourself up somewhat. You can be "unshaven" but cleaned up (shave around the edges, clean up your "lines" and make it look like you put some thought into your look.) Consider the fine points to grooming. How do your nails look? Are they ratty and gnawed on? Is your hair unwashed? This says something to a woman about how you care for yourself - if you can't care for yourself, then how will you care for her? Maybe you don't care, but she's the one making these judgements, so if you want to win her attraction easier, then you better consider them.

- Dress: Make sure that your clothes fit who you want to present. Consider tighter fitting clothing - unless you're overweight (then it may just accentuate your weight). Make sure your clothing is presentable, if it looks like you just pulled it from the floor (or worse - you did!) or like you slept in it (or worse still - you did!) then don't wear it.

- Peacocking: Bracelets, rings, watches, cufflinks, hats, scarves, armbands, wristbands, piercings, tattoos, hats, glasses etc. All can add flourishes to reveal a part of who you are to a woman. A little incongruency here is ok, just don't go too out of line with your avatar. Example, an eyebrow piercing for a guy in a suit might imply that he is not a stereotypical banker/accountant and thus might generate some interest on her part to learn just WHO you are. However, if you're in a suit wearing a scarf and a fuzzy tophat with goggles and said eyebrow piercing, you just look ridiculous and as if you're TRYING to illicit attention - this is bad. As a general rule, unless your avatar is pretty over the top, then your peacocking will likely be more successful if it is subtle.

- Physicality: See Jack's notes - 'nuff said!

- Body Language: See any of the multitudes of posts on these forums. Canibus is a BIG proponent of this (as am I!) and he's posted a ton about what to watch for in yourself and how to better subcommunicate via body language. I'd link it, but you just might learn some other valuable stuff while searching for his posts.

- Hair: Make it fit your avatar, but friggin wash it. Again, like nails, if you have greasy, oily hair, it says something about your health level to a viewer who doesn't know you (think about how sick people look) Unhealthy = un-sexy, and this will lower your passive value.

IMPORTANT: Consider the type of woman you're attracted to - have a type and select your avatar accordingly. If you like intellectual women, then you might be ok with a conservative avatar, but if you're after strippers, then it's probably not going to work. Look at the men they're attracted to, and dress/be a little cooler than they are.

By design, men and women both pre-selectively desire (on some level) those who have the highest survival and social value. Physical attraction speaks directly to survival value - that's why we're attracted to healthy women with a good chest to waist ratio, and why physically fit guys are attractive to women. It's also why facial symetry defines beauty. These visual cues are tools that we use on a subconscious level to determine if someone is healthy and would be a good choice for a mate (replication value). We ascertain whether someone is physically attractive or not in something like 1/2 second (someone post the actual time if you know it - I forget atm!) This decision is what forms passive value, and the things outlined here have a direct impact on how you are perceived.

There is no "set in stone" rule about what defines physical beauty, so there's a lot of leeway in these rules - which is why there can be so many different avatars out there that are all successful (and why we might find a range of different looking women beautiful in different ways).

Also, you'll find that if you begin to make a conscious effort in these areas, you'll feel better about yourself as an attractive man - which will improve your inner game.

None of this will overrule the person you present in your storytelling, your body language, or the way that you interact with women - hence you can be an unwashed slug and still get the girl, but it won't be nearly as easy. We've all known the average girl who once you got to know her, she started to look better to you. That's where storytelling, body language and interactive skills come in - she likely had them and you liked that about her, which increased your perception of her.

We've all gotta play the hand that's dealt us, one key to this is doing everything you can to ensure that you're maximizing what you have.

(another marathon post brought to you by me!)

look for me its not about look for me its not about anything else then talking. In my country i was smooth talker i could over talk anyone easily and now im struggling because A) im not talking in polish (lol) B) People are more closed over here. C) its Canada if you are not native people tend to ignore you more

I'm really thankfull to every one over here if not you guys i wouldnt even bother to try to change something. Because of Jack i discovered PUA. Mystery and style gave me hope that even if you are the worst looking guy (look at style) you can be mPUA. As mystery said its not about PU its about life and its true. Since I started doing stuff over here people didnt even notice me i was like a fly now people talk to me because they like talking to me

Jack, too true about the obvious. I should have written more in the first post. but am getting lazy writting too long.

One thing if you notice about the majority of PUAs, i think jack mentioned this too - not sure, they are all good looking,stylish, fit, groomed people. That givees them a huge advantage over a lot of the guys out there.

look at style before he started his journey. now look at him now. there is a big difference in his look.

yo just act like it doesn't matter and tease them and when they do something you like eg. tease back or go along with it; reward them by complimenting them that's how i roll but i am a very flirty kind of person

I don't rate most PUAs as incredibly attractive guys. Most put a lot of effort into their image and body language etc to compensate for not bein too physically attractive. Pour example, David X *shudder*

Generally, most of em could probably benifit from goin down the gym, they seem fairly reluctant to do so though.

Generally, most of em could probably benifit from goin down the gym, they seem fairly reluctant to do so though.[/quote]


Puas who are already good at this stuff dont have to go to the gym because they're already getting pussy. Just think about it, part of the motivation for me to join the gym, along with bettering myself, was to attract more females. If the only reason you would workout is to attract females, but you're gettin the females you want already, then y workout.

Shirley Knobsgood wrote:
Generally, most of em could probably benifit from goin down the gym, they seem fairly reluctant to do so though.

Puas who are already good at this stuff dont have to go to the gym because they're already getting pussy. Just think about it, part of the motivation for me to join the gym, along with bettering myself, was to attract more females. If the only reason you would workout is to attract females, but you're gettin the females you want already, then y workout.