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Absolutely! Feel free to ask anything here. With the first challenge of just saying "hi" that should keep you from feeling silly, because that's all you're saying. Don't worry about anything after that, if you say 'hi' then you win. If they choose to say anything else to you, then you likely gave of an attractive vibe that they want to learn more about. Since you're just saying 'hi' though, that's irrelevant, so don't let it worry you. if they say something back, then assume that they are accepting the burden of conversation and let them work to make you feel comfortable, and just see what happens.

best of luck!

Yeah, definitely just try the "Hi" exercise Woi, I remember the first time I did it it was very scary, but at the end of the exercise I felt very liberated.

Once you get good at that, which you assuredly will, you can start making your own openers for the specific environments you plan to sarge in. I usually pickup girls at the bookstore by my old college, so I made an opener about the Twilight books (I posted it in the Main discussion forum, you can read it there). If you plan on sarging in a mall you could ask girls what would be a good gift for a female friend etc.

By making your own openers beforehand you will spend less time thinking in your head when you first see an attractive girl. After awhile you will get so good at opening you won't need your canned routines and will just go natural. Some of the best pickups I have done were the ones where I didn't use any canned material, but I needed the training time to get to that level.

I hope that helps

woi:

when i first started this, the hi challenge was difficult for me as well. there were times where i'd say hi to 5 or 6 people and still have trouble getting myself to say hi to the next one. you really have to do it a lot to get to the point where it doesn't phase you. you also have to remember that you are doing this for yourself more than anything. you aren't trying to make their day by starting great conversation just yet. if people don't say hi back to you or they give you an odd look, don't worry one bit. before i ever tried the hi challenge i remember seeing a video from AFC Adam (guy recently voted #1 pua in the world) and he was saying how when he used to get warmed up by just saying hi to everyone, he would often get odd looks because being overly friendly and social with complete strangers is not necessarily normal. however, it's perfectly acceptable so it's not something you should try to avoid. that's actually one of the reasons why day game works so well is because rarely does a stranger approach you and begin a nice conversation.

just keep at it and it does get easier. you just have to force yourself to start talking. i know it's not easy. in fact i talk a lot when i'm with people i know and/or feel comfortable around, yet i had a hell of a time trying to start this challenge when i first tried. in fact there were multiple times where i'd go to the mall with my friends and not say hi to a single person. that's how bad i was in the beginning. you may feel uncomfortable while you're doing the challenge, but you'll feel a million times better once you're done.

Thank you guys, i really liked this forum. I started force myself to do hi challange everywhere i go. Well i could not go out so much in these days, till last night. I already post something about it on main discussion. I guess i am gonna be pass this Hi Challange soon. well probably i will never quit and go on. Whenever i see someone looking at me, i say hi. Only one question, when you are walking and they are not looking at you, should i still say hi? i feel like it will be bothering. and kind a feel like attention wannabe if i say hi to people even if they did not see me. but if i had to it , i will try..

if you're coming from behind someone, i wouldn't bother saying hi. you want to wait until they are either facing you or are beside you. also make sure they are in reasonable distance so they can hear you. if they aren't making eye contact, that's fine, you can still say hi and once they hear you and are certain you're talking to them, they'll usually respond.

you don't have to worry about bothering people when all you're saying is hi. in fact as long as you're polite and have a good presentation (not boring or sad looking for example) about yourself then you really have nothing to worry about. people are only really bothered by strangers talking to them when they are boring to talk to or rude.

the main reason why you want to make sure they see you is because it's supposed to challenge you to make eye contact with and talk to complete strangers. anyone can say hi if they know the other person can't see them or hear them. the challenge is to make your presence known and be confident about it.

bottom line: you won't be bothering anyone. people are pretty receptive to politeness and brief casual conversation since it's becoming so rare these days.


another challenge i would say you should consider is one that requires no talking at all, but helps a great deal. when i first started i would just walk about my college campus or in the mall and make strong confident eye contact with girls as they walked passed, and not look away until they broke eye contact first. i would also smile so i don't look so creepy. the ability to confidently look a girl in the eyes without having a tendency to shift your eyes is important. this one is simple and will in no doubt help a lot. after i got that part down, i combined it with the hi challenge so that i was making eye contact, smiling, and then saying hi. you'd be surprised at how receptive people are to such simple behavior.

i will start doing all those from tomorrow. I actually tried that eye contact thing, it is kind of fun. i am doing it since last weekend. From tommorrow, i will try to say hi to everyone i see.
thanks.

Woi, something else to keep in mind: I think that being a foreigner and English not being your first language -far from being a disadvantage- should work to your ADVANTAGE. Let me know if your experience has been otherwise, but my impression is that Americans (I'm assuming you're in the US) are, in general, friendly and helpful to foreigners (The exception being Mexicans - Americans can also be disgustingly xenophobic, but not to those they think "belong" here and accept - the category I'm sure you, being a student, are in) . I know you're not European, but I do know that American girls LOVE European guys and (I'm pretty sure) foreign guys in general. (I once had a roommate from Holland - this guy was a dirtbag- he never showered or shaved, got piss drunk all the time, was eccentric, had anger issues, and not much game from what I could tell. But I saw him pull a cute sorority girl or two and other attractive women from time to time without even really trying because he talked with an accent, and dressed a little differently than your typical American guy). I also don't think English not being your first language is a bad thing at all - in fact, I think it should be a good thing because not being so fluent naturally brings out the helpfulness in people, which should especially be an advantage with girls. I don't know first-hand since I'm American, but those are my impressions - let me know if you think I'm right or wrong.