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I'm staying in tonight, its been a really long week. I noticed that people seem to have a hard time remembering my name... as stupid as that sounds. I mean I always introduce myself with a strong hand shake and stuff.

Which brings me to my point. I messaged a this girl on facebook. This is the convo so far:

Mr. Rog
February 5 at 9:44pm
OMG! I need somebody to dress up in a giant chicken suit! You down?

V D
February 5 at 11:42pm
I'm confused?

Mr. Rog
Today at 3:15pm
Hi Confused. It's nice to meet you! I've never met anyone named Confused before. How are you today Confused?

V D
Today at 7:30pm
Confused is more like annoyed today. You? I dont want to go to work, didnt you tell me your name was bob or something like that?

How do I respond to that? I was thinking something along the lines of:

I've been called different things like Dr. Giggles, Mr. McCoolguy, and Professor Paul. But, Bob is a new one tho. I don't like it that much, you can call me HappyPants tho!

Hi Confused. It's nice to meet you! I've never met anyone named Confused before. How are you today Confused?

-> comming on strong. It gives me the idea you're after her. Of course you are... but you shouldn't give that impression I think.

Since she asked you "I'm confused?" I'd say something more along the lines of "I don't know, you tell me".

I think you should be more like you don't give a shit.

~2 months in so far and I feel like I'm not progressing as fast as I should be. AA is definately minimal, I can approach and open with no problem. But afterwards I feel like my game falls apart. I'm not too sure on how to progress any further anymore. HELP?

what falls apart???

is it numbers not going anywhere???

is it escalation??? Not closing???

What? what? what?

Escalation man... it's not clicking. I'll be in there talking and as the conversation thread ends my mind goes blank and I don't know what to do next. I mean I know what to do but not how to do it.

I feel like I need structure, I often find myself lost in what to do next. It's really hard to describe. I'm thinking of trying the whole boot camp thing to get a better feel for the game. Until then I'm gonna struggle through it.

my impressions of bootcamps, is that they get you started off in approaching, getting over AA, helping you at the beginning, getting contact details, and starting to escalate and teach you some theory. Maybe it will help, but you got to really research them, cause there are a lot of crap ones out there. Then agian i dont really knw, cause i never been on one.

I think you are focusing too much on moving the interaction forward. you are not in the moment. You need to be focused on the conversation, continuing it, teasing her, flirting, telling stories, relating to her, building a connection (rapport/comfort). you got to be in the moment, focus on the interactino, on the conversation, not in your mind

it is true you have to escalate, very rarely will a girl escalate for you at the beginning, plus its better that you do it, cause you are showing leadership qualities. She will passively/indirectly give you signs (i.e. IOIs, investing more in interaction).

check post on IOI i did
http://mypuajourney.freeforums.org/indicators-of-interest-101-t412.html

Either way you are going to have to take a chance and make a move, if doesnt work out (probably not ready) and she pulls back then do what you were doing before and continue then later on move it forwad. e.g. if you move closer, and she looks nervous and uncomfortable (backs away) then step back. This is why the idea of 2 steps forward and 1 step back is good. move interaction forward a bit and quickly take it away.

If it is to do with kino, then it depends on where you meet. You cant really do kino in day game (apart from touching hands -shakes; or arms - touch outside of arms; maybe a kiss on the cheeks or hugs at the end). At night it is more different, and you can escalate more.

here is a guide to kino escalation:
http://www.directnaturalgame.com/Techniques/kino-escalation-ladder.html

you got to take a chance, only small increases in escalation unless she escalates more.

this is in general, i need more info on what parts of escalation you are talking about??

Here is an example which you might find helpful

My general game is this: Day game ( my main thing) it all depends on my logistics (mainly how much time i have free). I always try and push the interaction as far as possible with respect to logistics. I will talk to her, go instant date(s), to mine or hers, close the deal. Now this is very rare and will only occur during the weekends - girls are busy and so am i. if I am not going to get her back to mine, i will no even go for physically escalating to full make out kissing. so i will get digits and leave. before i get digits, i will make sure i have connected on some commonalities (rapport) and qualified her. I do this through instant dates. if not i just get the number - even though i know it may not be all that cause i aint had time to show am attractive or build comfort and trust.

Then i will take her out on dates - first date is too make sure she is ok and fun and decent and interesting. If i had instant dated her on approach, i would know this. i would go for coffee for 20 to 30 mins. If any good i would go to arcades, shopping whatever (Somehitng active) ow i would end it make another date. if i did instant date her i would take her somewhere else first instead of coffee. next, if i can instant date her I would build comfort and take her to a bar, or just another date, then i can really escalate - kissing, constant hug while sitting down etc. then i will push on from there to her or my place. if not leave the bar date for another time.

if sex does not happen then,after bar date, the next date will be a dinner date (weekend), where we cook a meal at her place - buy ingredients together, cook together, and watch a movie. so during the movie i escalate. and push on further than what i did at the bar. by then i should have had sex. If not then we do more activities but more in private instead of public. I am always leading the interaction towards sex. IF sex doesnt happen after 5/6 dates max - i will tell her we should be just friends and end it. although once you are in her bedroom or sex location, then you got to close the deal (regardless of LMR). i generally tease her hard- kiss and smell her neck, shoulders, ears with top off. Then i say i got to bounce with excuse and get up and prepare to go - she will generally attack me

What i found is that girls can find it self conscious to kiss in public in view of lots of people - like a street or coffee placee. yet a bar or park when she can only focus on you and if it is night, she becomes much more willing to kiss. This is before sex has happened, after that

I hope that helps mr rogers. i think it was deangelo who said always move to the next step, so know the steps and advance to them - keep pushing the interaction forward. refrain from thinking about how you will do it (staying in you head) and be in the moment.

I haven't gone out in over a month due to being sick and just general laziness.

Finally, I decided to get back into it and I feel like I've taken 3 steps forward and 2 steps back. I'm realized I'm all over the place with my game and its really inconsistant. I think I'm going to stick with Mystery Method stuff for now as it seems to be the most structured and easy to remember.

I did get some 2 drunk chicks to flash me and make out with eachother tho. Well worth it

Lol I feel like my game got worse since I tried doing stuff that I learned on the internet.

i have better succes when I just am myself, when I got out have a good time and have fun lol

you it sounds like you just have a weak frame of mind like you bend your thoughts to fit what she just said. I don't really know how to solve it but i mainly what you need to do is just say things that you will think is funny etc.. and have the attitude that you don't care if they get it. Maybe someone else can explain it better.