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Postby jackcoxwell on Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:09 am

I love getting negative comments on my youtube vids. Some of you would be surprised the kinds of things people will say, but I definitely get a good kick out of it. The funny part is, usually the same guy will leave multiple comments on multiple video's. So it means he's still watching my vids! Which is exactly what I want people to do.

Anyway, I just received one where a guy told me "There was no day2 here," when in fact I spoke to the girl after the pickup on the phone, and I made the choice whether or not to see her again, not the other way around. It's hilarious people think they can judge whether or not you're going to see the girl again by watching the pickup. It's as if they have mystical powers. If you guys are reading this with the mystical powers, please give them to me! With powers like that you'd have the ability to only approach girls you KNEW you could close because you'd see the whole outcome before it happened! Damn, I am so jealous.

I also love all the Key Board Jockey's trying to give me advice when I clearly didn't ask for it. I hope we can all meet for some group hugs soon because you guys are great.

The truth is guys, when you put yourself out there like I do it's expected to have people give nasty comments, or my all time favorite - give un asked for advice. If I asked for advice in ANY video's it'd be different, but I never have. What happens is being all males, we are generally insecure of our place in the pack. So other males see me, a confident guy, and instantly try to find something WRONG with me, so they can feel better about them selves. Of course this is very self defeating, because the fact that you are pointing out a flaw PERIOD is proof of your own insecurity.

Of course none of us are perfect, and even I catch my self doing this at times. The difference is, i am able to catch my self and destroy any further thought! Most men are so high on Macho trips they spend their whole lives trying to be the "best" through one-upping their friends and being general vibe killers.

It's not until you agree to be DEAD last, that you will know true power.

p.s. everyone please keep giving me advice and telling me which mysterymethod/RSD/what ever techniques I should use when approaching women. I mean having a close ratio of over 80% and all, I really do need the help! If you can help me reach a 100% close ratio by following one of these godly methods, then by all means!

Hint: it's impossible to have a 100% close ratio ;)
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Postby mrgreen on Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:58 pm

One could argue that the need to defend yourself is insecurity in itself.

I'm not defending those who give out negative comments, but as you stated-- by putting yourself on public display you're automatically putting yourself out for public criticism.
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Postby god on Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:57 pm

down with haters
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Postby Scarlito on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:36 pm

close rate of only 80%??? Dude you need some work bro, Dont worry im here to help ;)

I've been around the community for a few years and the best part is when people copy and paste stuff from other sites. Then pass it off as there own, lol, priceless.
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Postby cobrastyle on Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:53 pm

Alright, let me first say, I've been a big fan.

When you first started, the videos of guys just like me, very little experience, going out and doing it, getting good responses, AMAZING! It was the most inspiring thing I'd ever seen.

Then you stopped those :(. It was still alright though, still videos of you sarging, even if it was only 1. You were showing stuff that was cool (even if the theories I had heard about elsewhere). I was still very happy, even if I thought the stuff before was better.

Then it's the "Interactive Bootcamp". It's good advice, but i've heard it a million times! I would have much rather had a video with more sarging and commentary then of a guy saying hi to people.

But whatever, it's your videos and you can make them of whatever you like, but what your getting into is stuff I can find anywhere. You guys used to be unique and inspiring, now it's becoming another guide on getting good.

Also, the new link to seduce in seconds.
1st - The video you added was proven to be a scam. The girl in it knew him since highschool. They proved it here:
http://www.puawatchdog.com/

2nd - Your review... it's too perfect. There is not 1 single thing that could have made it better? Or talk more about the things you liked. It just seemed to brief and perfect. Not really a review more like "It's amazing, by it from me!". I'm reading it now though, it's pretty good.

3rd - That book isn't JUST available through this site. Why would this guy write an amazing book and sell it to a small site? Well he didn't, it's available here too:
http://www.speedseductions.com/book.htm



It pisses me off writting this cause I know your cool guys. I had the pleasure of running into Ted aka "Nitro".

You guys seemed to just want to help people like you, now it seems like your trying to make money off people who were like you...

I'd be happy to hear any explanations though.

Anyway, that's what I needed to say.
Peace man.

- Cobrastyle

P.S - What's the deal with the long post about negative comments? Do you really need to diss guys that give negative feedback? Chill man. :P
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Postby Zero on Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:10 pm

cobrastyle wrote:Alright, let me first say, I've been a big fan.

When you first started, the videos of guys just like me, very little experience, going out and doing it, getting good responses, AMAZING! It was the most inspiring thing I'd ever seen.

Then you stopped those :(. It was still alright though, still videos of you sarging, even if it was only 1. You were showing stuff that was cool (even if the theories I had heard about elsewhere). I was still very happy, even if I thought the stuff before was better.

Then it's the "Interactive Bootcamp". It's good advice, but i've heard it a million times! I would have much rather had a video with more sarging and commentary then of a guy saying hi to people.

But whatever, it's your videos and you can make them of whatever you like, but what your getting into is stuff I can find anywhere. You guys used to be unique and inspiring, now it's becoming another guide on getting good.

Also, the new link to seduce in seconds.
1st - The video you added was proven to be a scam. The girl in it knew him since highschool. They proved it here:
http://www.puawatchdog.com/

2nd - Your review... it's too perfect. There is not 1 single thing that could have made it better? Or talk more about the things you liked. It just seemed to brief and perfect. Not really a review more like "It's amazing, by it from me!". I'm reading it now though, it's pretty good.

3rd - That book isn't JUST available through this site. Why would this guy write an amazing book and sell it to a small site? Well he didn't, it's available here too:
http://www.speedseductions.com/book.htm



It pisses me off writting this cause I know your cool guys. I had the pleasure of running into Ted aka "Nitro".

You guys seemed to just want to help people like you, now it seems like your trying to make money off people who were like you...

I'd be happy to hear any explanations though.

Anyway, that's what I needed to say.
Peace man.

- Cobrastyle

P.S - What's the deal with the long post about negative comments? Do you really need to diss guys that give negative feedback? Chill man. :P


nothing wrong with trying to make some money.. they are giving a lot of good free advice anyways

also have you watched the SEASON 2 episodes? He takes some inexperienced guys out and pushes them through challenge sessions. The asian guy clearly has no experience and can relate to many of us.
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Postby cobrastyle on Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:26 pm

Of course not, they deserve to make some money.
But there's a difference between:

"This book is amazing, you can only find it here, it's exclusive to this site."

and

"This is a very good book that teach you this, this and this. I'd recommend it, if you buy it from this site it helps us out."

The way their offering is just a tad dishonest.

As for the videos. The one with saying hi to everyone... it was someone saying hi to everyone. I agree that's a great step towards getting comfortable, but do I really need to watch a video of "hey hows it going" done over and over?

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe that's what a newbie needs to see to get out and do it... but it seemed a tad pointless.

The one with Ted was better (btw this guys been doing it for a few months...he's not inexperienced at all)... but still kinda pointless. It was improved at the end though by seeing Jacks approach.... but even that was random for a video about nipples and AA.

What would have been good for that is if he maybe had the AA stuff, but then showed a video of Ted doing an approach and add commentary at the bottom saying what he could do better to hook.

That would have been helpful.
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Postby cobrastyle on Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:42 pm

Just watched the new video.

Getting much better :).

Very happy to see :D.
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Postby jackcoxwell on Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:02 pm

Cobra style -

I actually wasn't aware the book was being sold somewhere else until AFTER I posted it on my site. "T" initially told me he had stopped selling it, and he actually intends to fully stop selling it very soon as it's going to be published, so it wont' even be on my site for very long. (unless it doesn't get published)

I'm good at picking up women now. How am I supposed to continue video taping me "trying" to get good? It wouldn't make sense anymore.

Thanks for the support man!
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Postby cobrastyle on Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:15 pm

Alright, well now ya do :).

As for the videos. I know your pro now and it's ridiculous to think you could do amateur videos anymore.

I think its very clever now how you've found some more guys who are still learning and getting video of them. I love it.

I think the first 2 could have been 1 though. It was a bit of a boring start to the series I'd say.

The video you just released was much better though. Showing "Mentalist" approaching is what I would have enjoyed watching back when I was that level. And also the part where you show you talking to those 2 girls and the subtitles. GREAT!

I'd love to see a few clips like that in all the future videos. Show you doing 1 or more sets, with the subtitles saying what your thinking. The other ones you did with commentary it weren't as good cause it was video commentary and it cut from the clip.

I can't wait to see what you guys will do in future episodes.

Also, I'll say what I think about the book for anyone interested.

If you've never read any seduction material, read the book and it's all you need. But as someone who's read tons already... it's boring.

It's basically a collection of the best techniques from other methods, plus a bit of original stuff. He's got a method in there of his own, but I am not a fan of methods. I'm more like Jack, I do Natural and Direct.

This book is also straight to the point. Other books will say "But before I tell you the technique, here's a story, the moral is...". This book gives the techniques, plain and simple, and gives some examples.

My only complaint is the information could have been organized better. The chapter on Attraction is before the one on Approach Anxiety and Opening... it just really pissed me off for some reason.

I'm gonna agree with Jack and says it's very good though. Maybe not a 5/5... but a 9/10 :).

Hahaha, that's my type of review. :P

Peace! :D
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Postby Kingpin18 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:16 pm

jackcoxwell wrote:I'm good at picking up women now. How am I supposed to continue video taping me "trying" to get good? It wouldn't make sense anymore.



Thats funny because you havent shown very good aspects of an average PUA.

Dont take this the wrong way but what you need to show us is how to merge sets, approach mixed sets, and what to do when you get amoged. But its not like I'm telling you what to do or anything. Its just that if I were one of your students I would be doomed because if I somehow got good under your teaching I would never know what to do when advanced situations come around like that. But thats just what I think at first glance.


Oh, it would also be nice to teach us how to get past last minute resistance. Or else we would never be able to go full close at all.
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Postby canibus1990 on Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:43 am

If he wanted to show videos of all the things that you are requesting, then he would have to spend a hell of a lot of time filming, editing etc. Cause not every situation occurs. So he and his camera man would have a lot to do. they got a life too.

If you want some thing like this, then he would probably charge you for wathcing his vids

I think it is mehow who does somehtign like this in the club, showing different techniques, and sells a product for like $800 or something.

be happy with what you are getting!!! its free and helpful
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Postby qixsilver on Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:15 pm

Wow. just read this post. Well, being one of the people who has pointed out what I perceived to be tips and suggestions on how to improve your game, I take your comments directly.

I'm sorry if I offended you Jack, I assumed that since you posit this whole experience as us following your journey from an average guy to a pick up guru that you might actually be LOOKING for some constructive criticism. I was under the impression that my comments might be looked upon with a degree of "hmnnn... maybe there's something to that." I mean since you did freely admit that you didn't want to invest the cash (for whatever reason) into delving deeply into some of the systems out there.

Anyway. It seems clear now that you view this site - and your developing community - as a forum to brag about yourself and your ability to open women, and further as a way to advertise your attempts to hold private boot camps - or whatever you want to call them.

In that case, Enjoy your 80% and your ability to grow stagnant with close minded thinking. Best of luck wth your fledgling PUA biz, I won't bother to view or comment any longer. To the rest of you reading this before Jack decides he doesn't want to share it and removes it from the site, best of luck. There are a lot of systems out there that work greatly. I hope you find the best for you.
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Postby Gogland on Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:03 am

In that case, Enjoy your 80% and your ability to grow stagnant with close minded thinking. Best of luck wth your fledgling PUA biz, I won't bother to view or comment any longer. To the rest of you reading this before Jack decides he doesn't want to share it and removes it from the site, best of luck. There are a lot of systems out there that work greatly. I hope you find the best for you.


To give you an idea, even the best people in the community are about good at cold approach laying a girl about 10% of the time.

Mystery himself even says that he's about 1 in 20 when it comes to clubs.

Success rates in the community seem a lot larger than they are due to a lot of hype.

Anyone who claims high percentage ratios has a really amazing natural ping working for them, in which they can walk into a room and already sense the girls they are going to be able to fuck, and only go after those.

There is no such thing as a PUA with a 100%, or even 90% or even goddamn 50% close ratio. Just people that can target really damn well.
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Postby Nighthawk on Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:17 pm

Yeah and if that true then there isn’t any point in going to any expensive boot camps. you may aswell just find away to get over AA an just approach like there no tomorrow. its all just a numbers game like 26(extramask) said

It all makes alot more sense because If you Had 5% f-close rate you could get laid to 2 different women a week you would just have to approach at least dozen chicks a night an go out at least 4 times a week which meens over 100 lays a year an 1000 lays in a decade which is legendary .

But what if the jack and the guys don’t mean 80% F-close rate what if they mean 80% Kiss-close rate or 80% not being blow out/ignored rate then that’s a different story altogether.(sorry if there’s any spelling mistakes or if this message is in any way odd or irrelevant just had a joint an a couple of cans)
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