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Let any woman know that you've ever read the book the game, studied seduction or tried to improve yourself with women because after that point I gaurantee that they will think that everything that comes out of your mouth will be a manipulation, game or not genuine.

I'm made the mistake 3 times and there won't be a 4th. I'm sure the experienced guys already know this, but for you newbies...if you're asked by a woman if you've ever heard of David Deangelo, you say you had an Uncle David and he took you fishing once. If she says did you see that show about mystery, you say that unsolved mysteries is for pansies and Robert Stack wears a velvet leather onsie. If she says have you read the book the game, you say ya, and Gordie Howe was the fuck'n man! Get it?

yup i agree....never say anything.......

Sort of weird, I knew 2 girls at a place I use to work at who both sort of knew about "The Game" and pickup, but they didn't know the details. Because I worked with them and I don't go after coworkers, I told them that I do pickup activities.

The first girl went to clubs EVERY weekend. The only thing she knew about The Game is that guys shouldn't buy a girl drinks. She seemed very mad about that and that she thought buying girls drinks "is the polite thing to do." She asked me about what sort of things I say to girls, but I wouldn't tell her.

The second girl actually watched the Pickup Artist a few times and thought it was a good show because she thought some of the guys were kind of cute and just needed social skills.

To be honest the second girl was overall far more mentally healthy with good self esteem, and if I had to date one of them I would go with the second.

My wing told his current GF about our activities (in fact I pointed her out to him when we were sarging) and she got PISSED off..... but she didn't leave him =D

lol...Too funny. Mine didn't leave, but it was like everytime I went to take a fucking piss during a movie they'd say "So are you doing a push right now?". It just got very annoying and no matter what I did they thought there was an ulterior motive.

Did a girl really ask you about david deangelo? I didn't think he was that well-known outside of the p.u. community.

One time Mystery came up in a conversation-she said she thought it was teaching how to manipulate; I said it's teaching them how to become better people so they don't have to manipulate -which is what most guys think they have to do anyway.

I have told one girl about this, and she didn't mind it. Till a friend directed her towards my site where she saw her self in a video.

After that I have mentioned randomly to women I run a website which helps men get better at dating etc. But they more so look at me as someone who offers people self help advice. I would never tell girls that I once sat down and read books learning how to talk to women. But I don't agree that it's such an awful thing to say. I mean, you'd probably be better off not bringing it up. But if you have the right frame with them from the get-go it wouldn't matter even if you did tell them. I've tested in GREAT detail the kinds of things you can get away with once you demonstrate to women that you are everything they are after - at that point you could lose a leg or an arm and they'd still be after you.

I have never told anyone that i have studied game. Yet when I have conversation, i do talking implicitly about having studied self improvement. I also talk about know how women think i.e. they are emotional creatures, why they want to have fun, why attraction is improtant etc etc. This probably makes them think that i have studied psychology and even game. But in the UK not many girls no about game and PUA community.

But a few girls would say - "are you a player?" or "do you do this to all the girls?" - that is good one to say to her; or "are you trying to pick me up" or a variety of these. Which are tests, but i dont bother accepting them (The frame) and tell them that i have read books about it.

I think why it is not a great idea not to say you study game, is girls want you to know game naturally, with out learning it. So that it feels "like it just happened"

I would, for that matter, never tell my friends weather they girls or boys. IF one my male friends was having problems with girls, i would share advice like i do on this site, but would only do it if wants it. If he really needs advice, i would tell him indirectly where to look for it.

But with female friends, i would just do the same with girls that i game, just talk bout what i know implciitly.

Would i tell a LTR or future wife that i learn game - No.

i would never tell a girl that i read a books or articles online about how to game girls, but i have no problem telling girls that i used to be terrible at getting dates when i was younger. in fact i've told several that i rarely ever had dates in high school and that when i got into college i decided it was time for a change. i find it quite amusing how nearly every guy and girl i meet these days seems to assume i've always been decent at getting girls and simply talking to girls. that's how the topic of my past usually comes up. somehow a topic about dating comes up and then the past gets mentioned. i think self improvement is an attractive quality in all people so i don't hide it. much like canibus, i talk about things like attraction and how it differs between men and women and what triggers it, etc. i've even talked to girls about how i go about talking and meeting girls. i don't think it's a bad thing to mention you've learned all this stuff and they you weren't natural at it. however i won't say that i read it in a book. i say that i learned through practice - trial and error, going out and becoming more social and confident.

just like jack said, if you can demonstrate that you're the kind a guy the girl wants it won't matter much. but i think it's best to avoid mentioning you read this stuff. in a girls eye's that may appear a bit desperate and even somewhat manipulative - as in you read this stuff to get some sort of edge over the girl, which of course isn't the case.