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Postby Zero on Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:05 pm

So today after work I decided I'd give it a go. I kept repeating in my head "Hello, how are you!" lol... so I walk up to this red light.. waiting for the walking light to pop up when this FUCKING HOT girl walks up and stands besides me waiting to cross.

She was probally a 10, definitly model material.. tall slender.. perfect face. And so I told myself in my head, "Ok.. time to say Hello, how are you!" I turn my head and instantly fall into the 'trap' and started thinking "Oh shit, there is no way she'd be interested in me," so boom there is that moment of hesitation where I say nothing.. then it snowballs into, "shit now I've created this awkward moment/stare" and I end up turning away feeling so ashamed and stupid. The light turns green and I walk away in total failure.

I feel so defeated that I just don't have the will to talk to the other girls that pass my way.

I'm feeling so depressed that I didn't fucking try. And I keep telling myself its better to try and fail than to have never tried in the first place.. but god damn that girl's hotness scared the shit out of me! I hope I can turn this into motivation to try harder next time, because I really feel like shit for pussying out.

Ugh, sigh... another day.. another day I'll try again.
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advice from a rookie

Postby dee-dot on Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:55 am

i have just started the challenges trying to do 2 days in 1 most days when i have time.

i guess the best bit of advice is to start with non-hot girls :P

fattys or old age pensioners just to get some confidence up. there was a show with juggler and he took 3 guys to a bingo hall to talk to all the old women who were there playing just to get the guys used to talking to women. maybe try something like that, as i say im a rookie so maybe theres ppl who can give u better advice but good luck with it and keep us posted :D
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Postby Iamnotapua on Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:51 am

hey zero, respect for posting your failed attempts man. I did it and trust me its not easy.

But in this game, you will fail before and even after you succeed.

We all wanna pussy out, and most of us have. I know I have. BUT the greatest glory doesn't come from essentially picking up the girl.

It comes from pushing past your comfort zone and doing this all new.

If it seems awkward or uncomfortable even more reason to do it, for the best PUA's must learn the skill of pushing past their comfort zone and limits.
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Postby Hustler25 on Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:05 pm

Hey Zero,

The above posts are absolutely right, take on board that advice, definately start with women of a lower standard, old women, other guys, whoever it maybe just to get you started and comfortable with talking to strangers. If talking to random strangers on the street is a step too far for you right now then start by talking to people you see on a regular basis who you do not know, for example just say 'Hi How are you?' to the guy who runs your local store, the bus driver, the receptionist at work....who ever. Just make you're goals are realistic right now, im sure when you learnt to walk you didnt do hand-stands first right?...the same applies, take baby steps at first mate.

Also judging by the way you describe you're so-called 'failure' it sounds like you have some inner game issues i.e. limiting beliefs/self-esteem problems. For starters lose the name 'Zero' this implies you see yourself as 'nothing' a 'nobody', when you're not, you're a somebody my friend, and despite what you may think you've got alot to offer! I'd just suggest changing you're name to something else.....maybe 'Ten' lol

Be abit more positive about yourself, and dont beat yourself up, we all fail and sometimes fail miserably, this is the nature of the game we are in, just dust yourself off and plough on through. Remember, if you want to love someone, firstly you have to love (and be comfortable with) yourself.

Hope to hear of youre future successes mate

Take it easy
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Postby Zero on Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:48 pm

Thanks Hustler,

You're perception is correct indeed.. I do have 'inner-game' issues, which is what pushed me into this journey with all of you. I really appreciate everyone's advice.

Also, I've recently finished watching VH1's Pick-up Artist show which is about the super pickup artist, "Mystery," who takes a bunch of really inexperienced guys through seduction school and in-field testing with the goal of creating one "master pickup artist" to join his inner circle. Its an inspiring show and is definitly worth a watch for those who havn't seen it.

Oh yeah, and the "Zero" nick is just my way of just exposing my current pickup skills to the world and just get it out and off my chest I guess. But yeah I need to have more faith and realize that I'm, and we all are, a "Hero," not a "Zero."

Thanks again guys.
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Postby epiC on Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:58 am

Hey .. ye this Pick-up Artist show is inspiring .. BUT
it is fake. The AFC's who became better are all paid actors. You know .. it's all about money.

Watch:
The Pick Up Artist VH1 is FAKE?
Kosmo - Actor/Cameraman for Girls Gone Wild/
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:8u ... cd=1&gl=us

Brady - Model but why did they make him all ugly in the first episode? http://www.actionagencyla.com/bradysprunger.htm

Spoon - MadTV and other tv Shows.

Fred aka 45 yo virgin - Comedian/Actor/Singer

And some of the other contestants have some acting background.

Im not saying his techniques doesn't work but Im saying everything is staged.

Even though those people in the club are actors but some/most of the girls are Mystery's friends.

Why so many actors?? and no REAL nerds. The only real person was that one nerdy guy that kisses hella funny and got eliminated even though he clearly worked harder than the indian guy. (Scott)
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Postby Hustler25 on Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:16 am

Yeah i've heard of the VH1 'Pick up artist' show with Mystery, I cant say ive ever watched it though. Judging by epics comments above it sounds like the accurate portrayal of the show is abit sceptical.

To be honest the mystery method isn't really my thing: platform shoes, giant pink cow-boy hats, spikey rubber back-packs and generally dressing like a camp goth may well work in L.A. but here in the UK it would probably see you get your head kick in.

For something alot less 'dressed up' and 'gimmicky' and more simple, natural and easily accessible to alot of guys i'd recommend you watch 'Seduction School' just type that into You Tube, it was aired on Channel 4 here in the UK about 18 months ago and basically follows the progress of 3 guys all of which have a number of flaws most of which are physical. They were taught by Wayne Elise (Juggler) and the transformation in them and their confidence particularly is very inspiring. I'd recommend anyone who is in need of a little morale boost to go watch it.

Take it easy guys.
You miss 100% of the shots you dont take - Wayne Gretzsky
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Postby Rhetoric on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:33 pm

zero,

i have been in your exact same shoes many times before. for example, there's a girl in my class that is hot as hell. one day she sat next to me in the computer lab and i didn't mutter a word. i felt like a little bitch. i knew i had everything it takes too. she even made eye contact with me from across the class on two occasions prior to the event. good eye contact too.

it sucks and it's all inner game which can be corrected.

also i find it helps to go out with a wing. let them start out with openers and you follow up from there. then you do a quick opener and let your wing follow up. just until you get comfortable.

don't stress and just continue to push yourself real hard.

i never would of gone for a facebook close today if my friend didn't push me. he went up to the girl and told her i had a question for her. he really put me on the spot. i needed that though.
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Postby Rhetoric on Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:50 pm

one more thing. just remember:

you will fail more in life than you will succeed. however, you failures will be small and your successes will be grand in proportion.
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