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I got a question.
When you talk to two girls at once you got a great way to transition from the opener to a normal conversation by asking them how they now each other etc..
But i have troubles fiding a great transition if i'm talking to just one girl.
Any1 here got any tips to talk about and to transition ?

Do you know what a transition is??

When talking to someone, you want to maintain a conversation. when you open, you want to change to a different topic. the transition allows you to do that. If you stick to opening topic it will die out, and there will be silence and it will seem awkward.

In any interaction with women, you always want to be escalating (therefore you are leading the interaction). By changing conversation topics, you are leading the conversation. By moving topics to a more personal nature, you are escalating verbally.

1) From her answer, you can use her hooks (what topics or themes she mentions). This you use to start a new conversation.

2) Another one you can use is a cold read. check the net for these, not hard to find. they are just general observations which are very likely true

3) You can switch to different topic, or even a story by saying "that reminds of ..."

you can use this even if opener is short (functional) or it is long (opinion).

4) If your opener is long winded (like mystery method openers), then you will talk for a bit about it, getting the girls to open up and invest more in the interaction. IF they do then you switch topics by offering a hook, if they are interested, they will ask about the hook.

For more on hooks check this out:

http://mypuajourney.freeforums.org/conversation-ideas-part-2-t395.html

5) you can also compliment her on her being a nice person and different to others for answering you question, then go off into telling her how rude some people are, or you could ask if she is a nurse cause she is so kind - in a teasing manner.

6) if you ask her a functional quesiont - what time is it? where is x? - you can tease her, by saying she got it wrong, and that some one else siad it was else where. you are basically disagreeing with her in a fun playful way. if she argues back, you dont argue, you agree. i.e. her: "no i am telling the truth" you: "yeah, i believe you" - in a sarcastic way. This takes a certain personality to pull off.

Just think about how you talk with your friends, how do you change topics?

there is a difference with talking to friends and people you dont know. With friends, you can let long pauses go on, and yet still be interacting. This occurs when you have rapport. With a new person you dont have that, as you started the interaction, you have to continue the conversation, so you cant wait for her to continue it.

canibus has made some great points, but i'll go ahead and add my two cents worth.

there is nothing wrong with having a game plan prior to conversation. it helps. eventually in time you'll be able to improv. better, but you should always have back up questions/topics in your mind should you ever stumble.

transitioning off hooks are great. cani's link discusses this quite well. however, i personally feel that you CAN indeed transition to completely unrelated topics without coming across as try hard. it just depends on the what you open with and what you transition into.

not to split hairs here and get into a great debate, but in cani's link he mentions how you wouldn't want to go from asking the time to asking who lies more.

i say if that's all you mind is able to think of at the moment, go with it. they are definitely not the best way to go, but they can work. here are two examples of ways i would transition into an off topic subject:

[option 1] (kind of goofy, but it fits my personality)

me: "excuse me, do you know time it is?"
her: ...
me: "are you sure?"...[she replies]..."are you positive?"...[her slightly annoyed response]..."are you HIV positive?"
her: [some form of positive reaction most likely]
me: you've got a nice sense of humor (or nice personality). most people here aren't quite as friendly and cool as you....
[here's a good time to body rock out and/or throw in a false time constraint]
me: [as if i'm about to leave] say while i've got you talking, let me get your opinion on something real quickly...[stacked opener]

[option 2](simplified version)

me: "excuse me, do you know time it is?"
her: ...
me: "thanks. you're quite friendly in comparison the other people around here. (here you actually transition into asking, "are you from around here?")
me: "you seem like a cool person"
[follow up with false time constraint, body rocking out, etc.]
me: say while i've got you talking, let me get you opinion.....

personally i think the who lies more opener is lame. i've never much cared for it. i prefer ones that make them laugh, which are generally ones that are just plain ridiculous. they are so odd that the girls know you're hitting on them just by the question. it's a means of going direct while still being completely original. i get great results from these. such as asking, would they date a guy who lives in a tent. asking girls at a club near my college if they're studying when ever i see them sitting down. or asking which they prefer, hanes or fruit of the loom.

transitioning to a completely off topic subject is only awkward if you make it feel awkward. think of how a stand up comedian does things when performing.

when the comedian has the audience engaged, they don't care if what he talks about next is completely unrelated to the previous joke. many comedians transition without reason and it works if the new subject is engaging.

easy ones to transition to are things like the best friends test, or simple compliments, even negs can get you transitioning off the opener until you get a new topic going.



having said all this, it is always best to try and transition off of hooks. you can trans into something unrelated, but using hooks are much better. they also allow you build rapport quicker. always pay attention to what she says, especially her response to and opener.

if you see a potential hook in her response to your opener, don't be afraid to change the topic instantly. many openers can lead to a dead conversation, so trans when you can.

Your options are very good examples, they are basically what i was getting at.

You give the example of comedians. I have used them as an example in other posts. I do believe that comeidans do link their topics together.

Although you do make the correct observation, that they do not link topics at times. But only when the audeince is engaged. Bascially they are enjoying his company and are invested in the interaction and want to hear more. At the beginning that can be hard to get. Yet you have to know it. thus the need of calibration is needed which is only gained via experience.

This is why when with friends, we can change subjects with out any hooks or it being situationally relevent, and it is alright. Why? cause we have rapport and are comfortable together. But with new people you dont have that rapport.

I basically use those options that rhetoric has given, well some changes when i approach girls. But i do it during the day time, at shops and book stores or on the street. I may change the time question to an situational opinion opener (what book would you recommend?) or situational statement about the environment (I love crowded trains, you never know whose BO you are going to be smelling?) or herself (You must be from France?)

Last point, another example of transtion i forgot to mention:

7) aFter question, you go direct ("I know the time, i just wanted to talk to you, cause you seem fun.") this can be very daunting, but you got to be confident in yourself to pull it off.

You can also check out AFC adam on youtube, for a direct approach with transition, on a very busy street in London. Check out the transition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wEDm-OUkFg&feature=PlayList&p=07D6349C85D9D29A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3

I wont even clutter this. Great advice you two. Rhetoric, some gems in there about transitioning to unrelated topics being ok as long as you make it feel natural. The examples are nice as well. Kudos!

Thanks for the replies guys
I hope they'll go good if i finally find the courage to make a day approach

best of luck man. day game is always tricky for me to get the courage to start. getting into state at a club is a lot easier for me. at parties, i've never had trouble with approaches or getting into state. the mere fact of being at a good party gets me into state.

however with day game approaches, just start off very simple. say hi to everyone that passes. ask simple questions like what time is it and then say thanks and leave. don't put pressure on yourself. you'll want to stay outcome independent. in other words, don't worry how the conversation goes.

i find the easiest places to start day game conversation is when you wait in lines. you can even ask something like, "is this the line for cool people?" i like this one quite a bit. if they say yes and you're feeling ballsy, you can follow up with, "then why are you here?" just make sure they know you're kidding by throwing in a nice warm smile.

cashiers and store employees are real easy to get warmed up on. it's basically their job to listen to you and hear you out. if you come across as fun and friendly and interesting, then your conversation will be refreshing to them and they will enjoy your presence. many employees are bored out of their mind and would love to have and excuse to avoid doing some monotonous task. talking to a cool individual is the perfect excuse they're looking for.