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Starting out -your exp. and recommendations?

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Starting out -your exp. and recommendations?

Postby europabloke on Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:23 am

First off, I apologise if this has been posted before. If so, please kindly just post the link, thanks.

Anyway, my question in particular is for jackcoxwell, but goes for anybody similar.

When you finally decided "I'm going to change my life" and started everything, did you first READ everything and educate yourself of ALL the tips and tricks, or did you just start with 0 Knowledge and read as you went?

I am unsure whether or not I should educate myself somewhat, so that I don't make all those common mistakes that are so easily avoidable if you read the material first.

The material that I have an referance is "Neil Strauss -Rules of the Game" and "Magic Bullets -Savoy"

If you're material is diff, and/or if you suggest reading one over the other, please let me know.

Thank for all the input, I really appreciate it!!! This all helps sooo much!
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Postby dabutler89 on Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:43 am

Before you worry about what you are going to do later in the interaction with a girl, get yourself used to approaching. So, pick out an opener and just use that one until you feel you can approach consistantly. By then you will undoubtly have approached enough people that will have gotten past the opener atleast once.

Alot harder said then done and im still working on this part.
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Postby Mr on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:56 pm

You'll make the same mistakes as everyone does.. I mean you can read all you want but when you're in the moment if you're inexperienced you'll prolly make the same mistakes you read about (or that everyone makes). But don't worry, it's not a bad thing.. you'll be learning. The best way to learn is to make mistakes. The positive thing about reading stuff is so that if you do make a mistake, you can immidiately identify it and correct it next time.
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Postby Haywiz on Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:17 pm

When I first started I read TOO much! I advise you read mayb one book and then start approaching. otherwise if you read everything, you'll be so in your head itll b even harder to approach. The first book I read that made me want to start approaching was "The Venusian Arts".

N as for approaching, just choose an opener and if you cant do that, just start saying high to everyone like Jack made that one guy do in his videos.

All you need to do is get that first approach done and after that it will be a little easier.
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Postby canibus1990 on Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:05 am

There is so much material by so many people out there. You got to remember that what these "experts" put out works for them with certain girls in certain enviroments.

If you want a good intro, go to Sinn blog page, there is a 60 page free document called the game acceleration. That is a great intro. He also has day game booklet which is free too.

I would advise you read david deangelo newsletter.

Check out entropy blog page he has a lot of good stuff on there.

Go an google the bold stuff, for the links.

I would suggest that you dont read too much - it wil only cause you more probs.

First , i would ask you to write down,

***what you want in a women (i.e.height. looks, personality, values) go into detail

***what type of relationship you want with any women now (i.e. mulitple partners, girlfriends, wife etc)

***Figure out where you will find these girls that match the above ( i.e. girlfriend which is not party animal and intelligent -> daygame at book stores) This means you got to do some research

*** find out what is attractive about. That means, find out what attracts women. Improve that. i.e. if you are funny, using it. If you are good at telling stories use it. if you are tall, emphasise it with your clothes. If you are well built, emphasise it.


***improve the basics - body language, voice, fashion fitness... check out sinns game acceleration.

***Find a mentor. some one who is a natural, it might be one of your friends. Ask his advice, talk to him, take him out for drinks or a meal, get info from him.

***Then approach women. Start conversing. Find out where your sticking points are and ask for help if you cant solve them yourself. i.e. if you cant approach a women to start a conversation -> you have approach anxiety, so you have to find ways to cope with it or find out what is stopping you and deal with it.

*** Have fun doing it
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