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hi, i am here to post on tonigths events. I am still not sober, and i hope you will excuse me for my gramatical, and spelling errors

setup;
end of the semester party. My uni has 40K students, and there was this one bar that was open on campus today (my home bar).

plan;
hit on girls i have been looking at earlier, but never had a succsessfull interaction with.

extra info; place could take about 200 people. i knew abou 70 of them from earlier, and at least 25 of them know me as a great guy whom they will intoduse to all their friends and genuinly count be as one of the best (top10) guys they know.

girls I interacted with;
really cute, with friend that destryed it bc she was desperate and more or less "attacked" me. (I had no wingman)

cute and hot girl whom i like, first time i meet her i tried to kiss her, but she refused. now i think things have changed (I discoverd PUA and she broke up with her BF). she called her father and had him bring me home (I live between the bar and her house). she initated kino, and quite alot of it, but i was to afraid to do anything about it bc of previous events with the girl.

girl whom a friend of mine told me she was in love with me 1 month ago (friend; "go she reallly likes you, you should kiss her" (she was not the same place at the time))

18 year old girl that have been giving me IOIs like crazy the last 3 weeks. (showing me thung tricks and grabbing me)

about 6-12 girls that will social proof me, by hugging and genuinly liking my presence.


why i am alone now:

I was never able to decide on one girl, always thinking i should be with on of the other girls esspecially the girl that had her father drive me home.

the reason i did not do anything with the girl that drove me home is that i did not get around to picking her up till 20 min before the bar closed. I had been doing enjoying myself with flirting with the closest girl around at andy given time, and then dropping the girl to go flirt with the next girl.

I also got licked by one girl, bitte by another and groped by some others (I had not talked to anyone of them for more than 2 min)


the problem
I have enjoyed myself immensly tonight, but i keep feeling that i have the problem of never "settling" with the girl i am with, bc i will always see someone else that I think is cuter or I think their personality is better.

so please, what should i do?
should i change my metality/goal, or my game? or both?


btw; omg I smell more of girls perfume than anything else today. and I smell of many different girls perfumes, it has a serious impact on my state of mind rigth now.

@ Hope.

Ah a well known problem.. there's so much options to choose from that you just keep going from one to the other never choosing, in the end you end up not escalating with any one. I've had this quite a few times.

I guess the best option if you do want to k* close or more is to isolate... isolate one where the others can't see you, kiss her there then just go for the other ones or something lol.

In recent news... i k* closed a girl in a few seconds the day before yesterday. I had a cold so I was using those little candy's for your throat. I got to the bars at 2 AM (they are open until 7 AM here).. drunk girl outside going home I told her if she ever kissed a guy with a candy in his mouth ... she said no.... I said well you should NEVER do it! and walked away... she immidiately touched my arm and pulled me back and was like ooh you're such a tease . At that point I knew I had her.. so I kissed her, started heating her up. pulled her to an alley where I started to finger her. THen her friend (guy AFC) came and wanted to take her home. Since I was just there for 5 minutes I didn't want to go home with her immidiately since that would be the end of my night. So I told her to go home and give me her number.

Next day... i called her went to her house. SHe told me she didn't want me in her room, she didnt' trust me. I was just a "player" blablabla I bet you have a girl in every city she said. I said no... multiple. Anyway she told me she was not having sex for one year. Why? Just to prove a point to herself. She was at 11 months now.. or so she said. So in the end I started kissing her heating her up... then I said listen I absolutely want to support your point and not have sex with you. So I'm just going to touch you and make you reaaaaly horny.. but in the end I'm NOT going to have sex with you.

We ended up in her bed doing the hand work (she had her period and was a bit fugly anyway). Then I told her I had to leave and left. lool.



In other recent news and also some funny details a friend of mine has fucked so many girls in a city that it's inevitable they're started to all known eachother somehow... so his entire empire of pussy is starting to crumble, since he's fucking friends of friends of friends etc. and they're all starting to find out lol.

Im having a little bit of trouble with my mates gf. Basically if she comes out with us she'll end up dancing with/on me. Usually grinding and last night she decided to start some rubbing and stroking (only on the body though). Naturally, whenever she starts doing this sort of thing i take her off of me.Also, she's obsessed with trying to hook me up with some of her friends. This usually all happens on the dancefloor and tbh the logistics of it all is usually too uncomfortable for me and her friends.

Basically, if anyone can tell me what wtf is going through her head it would help. She's very outgoing, probably could have guessed that, and pretty hot as well. I don't think she's attracted to me, and i hope she isn't, but me and my mate have pretty similair sorts of personalities so...

this site's been dead lately...

JAFFY

this is a tough one and it's gonna be hard for anyone to pinpoint exactly what she's aiming to do without knowing all the little details, some of which you yourself may not know.

either way, it think it's clear she finds you attractive. to what degree, i don't know for certain. she may not be REALLY into you but she obviously sees the attractive side of you and is comfortable enough with you to not only dance with escalation but to also try to get you to hook up with her friends.

here are some basic things that may or may not be applicable here, but are none-the-less true in many cases like this: since she has a boyfriend who is there, she may be trying to make him jealous. just because she's in a relationship doesn't mean she won't try to play the jealousy card. if someone knows how to do this properly, they can do powerful things with it. i wouldn't rule this simple idea out so readily. she may even be quite attracted to you and sees this as a way of flirting with you as well. the mere fact that you keep pushing her off may be whats causing more attraction. this is the basic push pull method. you may be implementing it without even realizing it. she may see you now as a challenge, an attractive guy to flirt with, and a way to make her boyfriend jealous. those are probably the three main things she sees you as.

as far as her friends go, i'm just curious as to what ways the logistics are too uncomfortable? if they're attractive and your type it seems to me like you've got an easy ticket to the top. win over the friend (which you clearly have) and you've got a downhill journey typically. i can see how some instances can be awkward, but as a guy it's up to us to disarm the girls and relieve the awkwardness from the situation. if you really wanted to, i'm quite certain you could capitalize on this. one of the simplest ways to diffuse an uncomfortable moment is through humor just so long as you don't present yourself as nervous in the process.

i can't wait until i get this whole GRE test over with next wednesday. I pray I do reall well on it because i'm tired of studying for it. i'm ready to get back in the game.

i've already got a new target for my day game adventures. the physics department at school just got a new office assistant and she's quite cute. hopefully i run into her next week when i have time to spare.

Rhetoric wrote:this site's been dead lately...

JAFFY

this is a tough one and it's gonna be hard for anyone to pinpoint exactly what she's aiming to do without knowing all the little details, some of which you yourself may not know.

either way, it think it's clear she finds you attractive. to what degree, i don't know for certain. she may not be REALLY into you but she obviously sees the attractive side of you and is comfortable enough with you to not only dance with escalation but to also try to get you to hook up with her friends.

here are some basic things that may or may not be applicable here, but are none-the-less true in many cases like this: since she has a boyfriend who is there, she may be trying to make him jealous. just because she's in a relationship doesn't mean she won't try to play the jealousy card. if someone knows how to do this properly, they can do powerful things with it. i wouldn't rule this simple idea out so readily. she may even be quite attracted to you and sees this as a way of flirting with you as well. the mere fact that you keep pushing her off may be whats causing more attraction. this is the basic push pull method. you may be implementing it without even realizing it. she may see you now as a challenge, an attractive guy to flirt with, and a way to make her boyfriend jealous. those are probably the three main things she sees you as.

as far as her friends go, i'm just curious as to what ways the logistics are too uncomfortable? if they're attractive and your type it seems to me like you've got an easy ticket to the top. win over the friend (which you clearly have) and you've got a downhill journey typically. i can see how some instances can be awkward, but as a guy it's up to us to disarm the girls and relieve the awkwardness from the situation. if you really wanted to, i'm quite certain you could capitalize on this. one of the simplest ways to diffuse an uncomfortable moment is through humor just so long as you don't present yourself as nervous in the process.

Didn't really think about the jealousy card. I thought about the push-pull thing but I dont really know when ive done any pulling with her, it's mainly just pushing. I've thought of being ultra flirty with her but in front of all our uni friends wouldn't be the best look.

As for the logistics I really only ever see her when im with all my friends from uni, and im still sort of uncomfortable hitting on randoms in the middle of the group sort of thing (and the guys and girls like to make these things ultra uncomfortable). The key thing is that this all happens on the dance-floor (plus, the main girl she's been trying to set me up with is at least a foot taller than me), off the floor i'm fine though. It's just that I seem to have trouble getting her off the floor, ultra keen dancer. Normally, I have 0 trouble getting a girl from the floor, off of the floor but for some reason when im around a heap of people i know it get's harder for me. Just something i hope to get over i suppose.

Thanks for the advice

Jaffy -

I have a rule about doing anything with a friends girlfriend or potential girl he is into - leave her alone. Now as in your case, she finds it challenging and wants more you got to man up. Assert your rigths. I would talk to her in private, and say i am not into you and never will be, be hard with her, tell her you dont find her attractive. Tell her you dont want her to be near me, dancing or otherwise. She may cry if she is into you dont fall for it.

another method, would be to declare your love for her, become all needy and such, talk to her loads of times. this will turn her off.

IF she is making her boyfiriend jealous, telling her to do it with some one else.

It is weird being hooked up with a girl's friend especially at a night club. Not the best way to do things. Just be polite and dance with her, then tell her to come with you to get a drink or talk.

Cheers Cannibus.

One more thing, probably a minor detail but worth mentioning anyway, I've noticed that she's added a few of the uni peeps on facebook but not me. Just more food for thought....

This more of a rant then a post, so i posted about a chick i was seeing from work awhile back. Well it turns out she had a BF the whole time. I was wondering why shit went downhill after all that. It explains why she wasn't giving me anymore iois and stuff. I guess i gamed her really good then LMAO. I'm really pissed off though because i have to see her everyday at work from now on. I mean it sucks that the chick I've gotten the closest with happens to be a cheater I'm really pissed off at her but w/e. I guess she thought i knew the whole time rarara no more ranting. I guess I'll just have to ditch her.

i was hoping to have a good field report for everyone today after last night's adventure, but i don't. technically i could still write two good ones from the last two times i went to this club in downtown houston, but last night was a complete bust for me.

i feel compelled to blame my friends for not pushing me since i specifically told them to do so, but deep down i know that's just a lame excuse. this is mostly an individual effort and relying on friends, much like relying on alcohol, in the club will inevitably become a crutch.

still i wish greatly that i had some competent wings, guys who are better than me and will constantly push/force me to approach. the thing that pisses me off is i know i could out game a mass majority of the guys there if only i would do so. in fact last night in the club my friends and i were standing next to some girls that these three guys approached and i was giving a play-by-play of every mistake they made. i was even able to predict exactly how the girls would react and what would be the end result. i know exactly what to do and how, but for some reason last night i couldn't get myself to go much. just some half-ass attempts. i find it hard when my friends are crying the whole night about how they're just tired and aren't felling it. although i know i can't let this be my reason for failing myself. hell, last time my friends ditched me as i approached a three set and when i introduced them all later they just kinda walked off despite the fact that the girls wanted to talk to them. their excuse, "i wasn't really feeling it." i was left having to entertain three for about 15 minutes before i could effectively isolate but i still managed.

i'm just gonna have to suck it up and prove to my friends that i'm not a pansy like them and just do it solo for now on. i've done it every time i've had success in the past so i know i can do it again. i just can't help but wish i had some real sarging buddies instead of fckn buzz kills. perhaps i can use this as an opportunity to motivate them to better things.

lastly, i've always wanted to get good at day game. it's something i still struggle with greatly and i think i'm finally gonna start to take it far more serious and devote more time to it than night/club game. that's always been my goal anyhow. club game is fun and all when i get it right, but day game seems more practical. especially since i'm always seeing hot girls at school that i could and should be approaching.

monday i'm gonna talk to that new office assistant in the physics department i work in at school and start from there. she's cute and i think she wants me lol. i may lay off the whole club thing for a while.

Both have their things, in clubs girls are drunk and thus easier, however they know guys are going to be hitting on them and so the have this shield.

During the day girls are sober, but you can catch them off guard, most don't have their shield put up and find their jobs kinda boring.. so they're mind wonders off and they'll be thinking about sex. When you show up and flirth with them it's ussualy the kind of brake they want.

Anyway what you were suffering from is prolly not being in a social state? You said you talked to a couple but you weren't on a roll yet.

Like I said in the other thread.. I'll be in Hst next week thrisday / friday / saturday so 3 nights of going to bars & clubbing. I kinda' already have a date set up.. well she has a boyfriend but a girl over there is a good friend of mine and we're going out for some drinks etc. so we should meet up have fun and go after the girls in Houston

day game is my specialty ;] - been a while guys, suppp ;]

not being in that right social state was exactly my problem. usually i can warm myself up to it, but the other night, i'm not sure what happened. it's disappointing because the last time i went there i was good to go the moment i stepped in the club.

either way, we should definitely meet up. i'll leave that topic to the other thread though.

i didn't go into work today so i didn't get to see that girl, but i'm heading to work first thing in the morning tomorrow. i'll do my thing then for sure lol. like ray charles once said, "imma make it do what it do, baby."


lastly, welcome back notion. i've always wanted day game to be my specialty, but i got rather obsessed with club game over the past 8 months or so. i don't want to quite clubs cold turkey, but i definitely want to focus more on day game.

so i talked to that girl today, but things didn't go quite the way i expected. that's not to say they went badly, they just went okay. some elaboration may help to explain.

all the guys in the department had taken notice of her and since i'm not there too often they were able to talk to her beforehand when i was gone. according to them she's a little different when it comes to the comments she makes. i'm a fan of different so i decided to find out for myself.

i noticed that the department chair and the secretary were out for lunch so she was the only one in the office. this was good because it can be awkward to carry conversation when everyone else can hear you. i saw this as my chance but needed a justified reason for talking to her so i went in and asked if she knew where i could find a rubber band. she helped me find some and i went from there.

she's definitely cute but the conversation was boring for me. i don't think she ever found it boring, but i sure did. the problem is that every time i tried to qualify her, she would end up volunteering the information almost as if she was gonna tell me regardless of me asking. typically you qualify a girl in order to get her to invest in the conversation which in theory leads to attraction. however she was just saying boring shit about her job.

another thing is that she took my joking questions too serious. i asked her if "office assistant" was her official title and she went on about how it isn't and what her job entails. then i said, "so you basically just a glorified paper stapler, huh?" then she said she wasn't and went on to tell about the task she's required to perform.

perhaps it's because all the guys who talked to her before kept asking what she actually does here since none of knew. i guess she was just prepared to answer this time.

lastly, when i exchanged names she said her name was jessica and i replied with, "Jessica? that's an awesome name. what is that like turkish or hungarian?" every girl laughs when you ask that but she just went on to say how her family isn't turkish or hungarian.

by this point i was thoroughly bored with the conversation, though she seemed to welcome it. i mean why wouldn't she? she was sitting there in an empty office doing nothing. i felt it was my duty as a pua (in training) to help better her day. it just didn't go as planned.

either way, since she's cute i'll talk to her again next week, probably on monday. a group of us were gonna head to a bar and grill on thursday and they wanted me to invite her so i probably will. i'll give her another chance to spark my interest.

now that we're acquainted, i'll run some better game. also now i have an event to invite her to so i'll have a justified reason to get her number. in this case, having a reason as such is better than simply saying you think she's cute and want to keep in contact with her. since we have to work in the same building and i'll see her often, it's best to stay indirect at first. especially in the work environment. you can't really fail with indirect. going direct get's quicker results, but if you fail, then it sucks to have to see her many times again afterward.

Ok I can't comment on your post right now.. I'm too drunk.

Anyway I was in Bangkok today and we went to some bars where people were mostly sitting with their own groups and it was kind of hard to game there.

I had some eye contact and one girl in particular seemed to dig me.

Later at the end of hte night I mad ea couple of mistakes:

I went up to some girls waitng for a taxi and said "HEEEY WHERE'S THE AFTER PARTEEEEY" talked to them, made some attraction, some kino.. th egirl asked "Hey you wanna come over to our place, we've got a pool". THis was a major IOI And I should've taken it... in stead a friend of mine whom I was there with said NO I'm not going but you can go.. go.... I took it as "he probably wants me to stay" so I said no to the girls.. later on he said he really wanted me to go but he just did't feel like it. I SHOULD'VE DONE IT.

Later on I found the girl who was giving me eye contact and I said heeey ou're that girl from "cxxxx bar" that was major stupid.. she was like yeaaaah that was mee... (boring look). Ok bad opener I should've ignored the fact that I saw her earlier...

Anyway I ended up drinking too much... bad openers.. or bad follow ups... i thought most girls were also really really drunk and I ended up making mistakes anyway tonight is another chacne lol.

Next week.. Houston